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To: LoneClone who wrote (312803)12/5/2025 3:22:25 PM
From: koan  Respond to of 313057
 
I did not say it was a great place for women, I said the women were fighting a 3,000 year old culture so hard that they have one of the lowest birth rates in the world, because they refuse to marry and have kids with misogynistic men!

Japan is having the same problem.

You should be looking at the history, and their advances and judge them on that, not some static statistic that has NO meaning with out context!

What is important is the fight the women are making in both places because it means they are aware of the misogyny and are fighting it with all their power.

And it isn't just the women fighting the 3,000 year old patriarchal society, it is the liberals and those in the arts.

South Korea, next to Hollywood, produces the most movies and large numbers of them address Korea's Patriarchal hegemony!

The fight against sexism, racism and homophobia, put in context, is how you should be judging any society, and it is a powerful fight, but misogyny is entrenched in most Asian and third world societies, but South Korea and Japan is educating the people and things are changing-fast!

Both countries have come a long way in my life time, and in many respects have advanced beyond the US in things like education, and in the end education is what determines a great society like we see in the Nordic countries!

PS just look how far Japan and South Korea have come in the last 80 years. South Korea was a third world dictatorship 80 years ago, and today it is the 11th largest GDP in the world and a thriving democracy that has put two or three presidents in jail. And we all know the story of how cruel to women Japan used to be!



To: LoneClone who wrote (312803)12/6/2025 11:50:42 PM
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So let me point out one more thing I like about Carney.

As Trump burns down the world with his hateful venom and extortion of all the countries on earth, and isolates us while currying favor with the world's right wing dicatorships, Carney is doing just the opposite.

Carney is working to bring the entire world together with regard to humanity, democracy, the rule of law, and "shared values" which he mentions by name, because he knows how to do that, and its importance.

No one has more education or experience to organize the world for humanity!

Aside from the immediate need to check Trump, the world has to come together to prevent the human extinction from nuclear war, a pandemic or other threats like AI unknowns.

And he realizes how important it is to bring all the countries into the humanitarian fold of democracy and the rule of law.

When setting up organizations it is good to have all the people in the tent.

I think Carney will end up being seen the way we see Lincoln, FDR, and JFK..

And yes we need to make friends even with third world countries that are sexist, so we can change their minds by example!

Carney sees the big picture of how to both fight Trump's evil behavior and organize the world for humanity!