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Politics : Did Slick Boink Monica? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Surething who wrote (8512)	2/26/1998 11:18:00 AM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 20981

Your ignorance is global, Part II. >>Do you really understand the principles upon which the American justice system is founded? You and others on this thread are quite eager to pronounce your verdict without giving the President the same considerations you would certainly be demanding for yourselves. I have never done jury duty - attorneys get dismissed. I have stated before that Clinton is legally presumed innocent until adjudged guilty in a court or in Congress. Concerning the larger matter of your ignorance: There is another and altogether different court which you apparently wish to silence. That is the court of public opinion. Unfortunately for your view, Americans (U.S.) have a constitutional right to freely discuss these issues and make a determination based on the entirety of evidence available. So long as Clinton and Company do everything in their power to defeat the ends of justice and to try to obstruct testimony, we have an absolute right to consider him guilty. In fact, we would be foolish if we did not. As for mob tactics, if it fits: Cherchez la femme, say the investigators By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Little Rock IN a scene reminiscent of a B-rated crime movie, investigators for the Paula Jones legal team had to ambush a friend of President Clinton in order to serve her with a subpoena before the deadline expired in the sexual harassment lawsuit. The Jones team mounted an undercover surveillance operation to outfox Beth Coulson, one of Clinton's closest friends and a top target for cross-examination under oath. They pounced as she was getting into her car in Little Rock on Country Club Boulevard, dashing across the pavement waving the dreaded papers. Ms Coulson dived into the vehicle and locked herself inside, according to a witness. The subpoena was placed under the windscreen wipers while she scowled defiantly through the glass. Arguably she had not been formally served, but as a former judge - appointed by Mr Clinton - and a practising lawyer, she apparently decided that it was time to admit defeat. Ms Coulson could not be reached. Her office referred all calls to her lawyer, who said he understood the subpoena was served in her garden. In America, a subpoena has to be delivered in person, giving ample opportunity to reluctant witnesses to refuse to answer the door, to take circuitous routes to work, or to slip out of the house in the dead of night, in disguise. Most of Bill Clinton's female friends sought by the Jones team seem to have resorted to skilful manoeuvres to avoid having to testify. Some have gone abroad. Elizabeth Ward, a former Miss America, found a pressing need to be in France for the duration of the legal "discovery" process, say sources familiar with the case. Others have found themselves fortuitously unavailable. Robyn Dickey, the former Director of Special Projects at the White House, was on leave of absence when investigators tried to contact her in Washington last November. Shortly afterwards, she was made chief of protocol at the Defence Department and set off on trips to London and Brussels. The Jones team was unable to get inside the Pentagon because no-one had a security pass for the building. They tried to find a home address but there was no listing for Mrs Dickey in the Washington area. It would have taken an ambush in the Pentagon car park lot to serve the subpoena. Lacking the money for yet another surveillance operation, the Jones team cut their losses. Mrs Dickey was never served with a subpoena. She said that published reports of an affair with Mr Clinton are "recklessly false and malicious". Another woman, now married and living in Texas, told friends at a party in Little Rock that she had deliberately misled the Jones team about a sexual liaison that allegedly began in 1989 and continued after Mr Clinton was elected president. "She told us she lied like a dog. She was laughing about it," a person present at the party told The Telegraph. Such is the story of the Paula Jones lawsuit. Although it is reported that there are more than 100 women on the witness list, most have refused to co-operate, or have been dropped from the list after denying a sexual relationship with Mr Clinton in interviews. telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=000118613908976&rtmo=rXaQa9hX&atmo=f0DwDsvs&pg=/et/98/2/19/wcli219.html

To: Surething who wrote (8512)	2/26/1998 8:26:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Respond to of 20981

Surething, while you may view Starr as "Starr and his team of thugs", Janet Reno, a Clinton appointee, apparently does not. Your grievance against Starr would appear to be more properly aimed at Clinton and the DNC. I know it must hurt to realize that the field officers of the vast right-wing conspiracy have so successfully implanted their members into the heart of the Clinton administration, but nevertheless you've got to admire their skill. I mean, the head of the Justice Dept! Who woulda thunk it! Until Hillary so astutely zeroed in on the crux of the administration's ongoing problems, the presense of these sleeper agents was completely unknown, even to some of us who work in this endeavor. DK