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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (48990)	2/27/1998 10:47:00 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

I can't imagine they are still running stuff on Vaxes, Puleeez. You mean its not in color, no pull down chioce lists, not a mouse in sight, no sound cards, no visuals? Unbelievable. Well not many customers still use vaxes for their erp systems. The first generation of erp did primarily run on vaxes though. That was manman, maxim, (and maybe R2, not sure about that one). But for the 2nd generation which includes R3 and Oracle Finapps, starting in about 1992, unix was the primary platform, all of these have pull-down menus, by the way - actually they are automatic drop-down which is a requirement for data integrity. Then last year the vendors came out with NT versions, which were slow to catch on. Just as an example, even Dell's erp system (which currently is custom code, NOT R3 or Oracle) runs on a mainframe. The reason for the allegiance to the character mode client is speed. Some order entry people need to enter an order every 5 seconds. Its just not possible with a mouse based gui of any kind. Michelle

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (48990)	2/27/1998 12:13:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Mary - re: "I can't imagine they are still running stuff on Vaxes, Puleeez. You mean its not in color, no pull down chioce lists, not a mouse in sight, no sound cards, no visuals? Unbelievable." I hope you are joking. What do you think your bank runs on? Probably an IBM O/S with origins from the 1960's. Personal productivity tools with a graphical interface are great but by no means the only way to use computers. Re: SAP - this runs mainly on UNIX but has been migrating to Windows NT. SAP is one of Intel's development partners for MERCED/IA64, as well as a full partner with Intel in Pandesic. Paul

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (48990)	2/27/1998 2:17:00 PM
From: John Hull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Mary, RE:"What does the SAP R/3 run on (IBM, SUN,...)? How long do you think it will be when they can migrate this stuff (especially SAP) to run on an Intel platform?" In '97, over 40% of all new R/3 license installations occurred on Intel architecture based servers. As you might expect, the vast majority of the clients are IA based. That's pretty signifcant when you throw in the fact that just three years ago, virtually none of the installations were on Intel architecture based servers. The estimates are that the majority of '98 new installations will be on IA-based servers. Regards, John Hull