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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (18132)	3/12/1998 10:43:00 AM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

If a Mother raises her son and the the son turns 21. They are both now legal adults, and whatever they do with their private life is their business right? Now, Michael, there's a BIG difference between homosexuality and incest. At least in the sense that the incest taboo is respected in most societies. Though by no means in all.

To: greenspirit who wrote (18132)	3/12/1998 3:13:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

Michael: "If a Mother raises her son and the the son turns 21. They are both now legal adults, and whatever they do with their private life is their business right? Well how would you view them having sex with one another? Remember they are both adults, with a free mind and body. Same thing if it's a Father daughter relationship or brother sister. If they are adults, should we view there sexual mora's distastefully? Now the tougher question, why do we feel this way?" Because people are taught to feel that way from childhood. There have been many civilizations that did not subscribe to this taboo. It is more cultural today than anything else, thanks to birth control and genetic engineering. FT

To: greenspirit who wrote (18132)	3/12/1998 11:17:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Good point, Michael. Excellent. Okay, I'll admit it. I'm coming out of the closet. I've always harbored fantasies about my sisters. But I suppose there will be a bunch of bigots out there who will try to deny that I was simply born this way. Well who are they to judge? Further, I think the bible can be interpreted many ways, and therefore if I say I'm comfortable as a Christian living in an incestuous sexual relationship in a house with my sisters, then other Christians are bigots if they don't accept that, and the same goes for the media, atheists, and anyone else who harbors any thoughts that incest is "sin". What do you think, Christine? Are you going to support me on this?

To: greenspirit who wrote (18132)	3/14/1998 3:00:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Michael, I'm sorry I didn't respond, or did I? I have a slow servers, even today the keyboard is doing its strange delayed thing and after a little while in SI it goes out. I believe in my case it may be divine interference to get me back into the real world a few hours a day at least. My take on this is that the homosexual thing is supported and backed by those with truly insane agendas, who will then work the "minority" issue and all established law protecting what was once forbidden for the basic good of men, women and children in general. It seems like one thing and only one thing is certain: Since l975 or so, when the dope smokers got more and more power and more and more clout and have lobbied for and bought laws that were unheard of even 20 years prior to that, that the suicide and murder rate now goes off the scale compared to any country in the world. We have more mentally ill we must feed, cloth and house and drive around free all day long, more drunks on SSI, and more chronic illegal drug addicats on SSI than ever imagined in the chronicles of mankind. All of this at the expense of fewer and fewer workers proportionately. All of the homeless receive food stamps and most are on SSI. They take their monthly allotment, or the bar owner (payee) does, or the pusher does, and then they turned around again, and used by the same political class that created this strata of society to then be used to demand MORE benefits to support yet MORE insane, drunk and drugged people. Well, I got a bulletin for all of you swingers who know no limits, and whose bodies you feel deserve any pleasure anytime from any source you so deem to desire: The crop of much molested children is just coming to the point where they can carry a gun or knife and have the tools to break into your house. Just a thought. In the meantime, continue to blame it on the Christians--satan has been doing that perfectly since Nero first perfected it. The next big move is NAMBLA. Waiting in the wings, growing in strength and number, and just eyeing all those boys with drooling mouths open. After that, who knows, the next in line will certainly make itself known soon. Probably human blood-suckers. They will be the next minority, and will demand your necks, maybe, as their civil rights protected activity. Of course, if they are also homosexuals and members of NAMBLA, then society will probably have more tolerance for them, and who knows, we may become a whole nation of blood-sucking homosexuals within 25 years. Anything is possible. I know that vampire cults are known to be satanic, and have ONLY satanic websites. I know that part of satan worship is willing participation in homo stuff, or all escaped satanists are just lying. Also all literature to satanists suggesting it is natural and good is not written by satanists, but make up by crazy people who have nothing else to write about. I do SO appreciate this thread, as it is hard to find pagans to talk about pagan things with. Most Christians find it all so offensive they just like to believe it isn't happening at all, or dismiss it and pray about it. Neither approach seems to be working.