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To: Kashish King who wrote (8343)3/14/1998 10:03:00 PM
From: uu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Rod:

> Sun or IBM should have bought Netscape

Yes I agree IBM should have bought Netscape a long time ago. It is, IMHO, never too late for IBM to do so.

> The dorkazoids (sp?) running Sun and IBM should have made every effort to leverage Windows as the best possible Java environment and not treat it as simply another Java platform.

I see your point. However, by leveraging Windows as the best possible Java environment Sun would have helped Microsoft's dominance dramatically which would have hurt its own long term objective of introducing/imposing the thin client/server centric computing model on the market (keep in mind Sun's objective is to make huge money by selling servers). Java would have simply been another "application or tool" designed specifically for the fat client centric computing model (exactly what Microsoft is trying to do right now). Like you said, the network is the computer, however the computer no longer is just a fat client PC! The computer can be the electronic hotel key door, a toaster, a Network Computer, or perhaps a fat client PC (that happens to run Microsoft's WIndows OS).

Regards,

Addi Jamshidi



To: Kashish King who wrote (8343)3/15/1998 1:24:00 AM
From: LKO  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Providing native Windows components to the 80% of machines that do
run Windows would have made Java a screamer right out of the box without sacrificing one iota of portability.


I am not sure I understand all the details, but
Maybe that is what Microsoft is trying to preempt from ever
being a possibility with its J++ strategy. Unlike Addi I
don't think it their tools group revenues that would be the
primary concern in their decisions.



To: Kashish King who wrote (8343)3/15/1998 9:28:00 AM
From: Bear Dolbair  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 64865
 
The Network Computers Dirty Little Secret

ncworldmag.com

"It seems intuitive that IBM, Sun, Oracle, and their partners should
be exploiting every possible entry point to bring about the success of
network-centric computing. But they're just not doing it,or not doing
it fast enough."