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To: Grainne who wrote (18601)	3/15/1998 6:40:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

I find it a first degree murder, is what I find it. They will find the guy and he should be charged with murder, but believe me he will get a manslaughter at best. However, look close at all the facts to evaluate where this stands with "hate" crime statistics. It was a drug crazie who had first attacked a bus stop sign, then ran and slugged a homeless guy, he may or may have been yelled at by the men he then attacked, and then he might have. Or it may come out that the homeless guy wa also homosexual. That is more of a pattern of hate. Or they were the only other humans around. This is also a bus stop sign crime, and the homeless can use it for their campaigns for "brutality against the homeless>." That's only fair in this case. To categorize this random drugged attack as a specific hate crime is truely shaping the putty to fit the slot it can be pushed through. On the same page a young woman was thrown from a truck at high speed and was in critical condition. It pretty much is like, so what? What is interesting that had the couple been a man and woman from Marin County, it would have appeared one paragraph on page 20. NO statements about how sad it was would have been sought from the police sargeant, and you're also smart enough to know that was done out of PR for promoting "the problem". But, no, in my mind this was not a specific "homosexual hate crime", and something must have been very obvious about the men that they were homosexual in the first place. Did the crazy guy actually address them as homosexuals, as stated? "You want a piece of me?" that's bar drunk and drug crazy talk. So, again, the trials often bring out facts that the initial reporter does not have. I think more of such articles is a good idea as it gives an overall picture which is either true or false. I like truth, whether it is my particular pleasant truth or not. Just truth. THe guy who did this hopefully will be hunted down like a rabid dog. But the most he will get is manslaughter, with a plea bargain down to less than 3 years. Watch and see. He'll be out in a little over a year with his holding time included, I'll bet. I think anyone on that side of the street he didn't like the looks of were going to get slugged to the sidewalk. It was the fall to the sidewalk that injured him the most. Now, had the guy repeatedly stomped his head and kicked him yelling faggot, yes that would show nothing but a hate crime. I think what this is a basic life in the city crime. As you know, it can be very dangerous and timing and location means the difference in many cases between life and death. This was very, very bad timing for two guys, to say the least. After reading the Bridge at St. Louis Rey very slowly at an early age, I am very very stoic about timing and location. You just can't do a darn thing about it except pray not to be in a situation of bad timing and bad location, period.