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To: Janice Shell who wrote (10799)3/16/1998 10:19:00 AM
From: alan w  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20981
 
SHELL SHILLS! SHOULD SHE SHOW SHAME?



To: Janice Shell who wrote (10799)3/16/1998 11:55:00 AM
From: John R Resseger  Respond to of 20981
 
Janice

I find I can agree with you on the post below. Hostile feelings have disapated. Having been convinced long ago that Mr Bill shared several charitristics with myself, that should exclude him from being President, I become impatient at times with persistant blind defenders of B C. Being new to the thread, I incorrectly perceived you as such.

To: David M. Anderson (10745 )
From: Janice Shell
Monday, Mar 16 1998 9:50AM EST
Reply # of 10821

Do I care if he perjured himself testifying in a nuisance civil case? Not really.

That attitude really perplexes me.

Let's say I'm the defendent in a civil case. Let's say I'd had an affair with someone who
worked for the same company I did. I had the superior position, though I didn't work
in the same division that he did. He failed to get a promotion, and so sued me.

His lawyers subpeona me. In the course of giving my deposition I am questioned about
every other man I've ever so much as had dinner with. Did I sleep with this one, that
one, that other one? What do I do? I certainly wouldn't go into detail about my sex life.
I'd either refuse to answer and invite the court to cite me for contempt, or I'd lie.
Probably I'd do the former, and that's what Clinton should have done. Stupid of him
that he didn't.



To: Janice Shell who wrote (10799)3/16/1998 12:05:00 PM
From: Vaughn  Respond to of 20981
 
<That attitude really perplexes me>

The attitude doesn't perplex me nearly as much as percentage of people (if the polls are accurate) that have lost or never had a moral compass which includes honesty and accountability as unwavering fundamentals.

I am a child of the sixties and IMO, it is my generation that is most responsible for what we are seeing here. It was admirable, appropriate, and long overdue for us to become the change agent generation that called for an end to prejudice. Unfortunately, our rebellious reaction also led too far down the path of tolerance. We included a "don't judge behavior" attitude as a part of our model. This was a huge mistake. Without guidelines for appropriate behavior, we accept actions like we see here from ourselves and others without critique or threat of consequences.

The net result of this problem is that our society has developed a landscape of slippery slopes without enough ropes attached to the pillars of a moral society. I am amazed at the percentage of people that don't see this. While I feel sorry for Bill, his family, and those who respect and support him, I suspect this very visible example of societal decay will shine enough light on this problem for others to see.

I can't remember who said it, but there is an old saying that says only through conflict comes real growth. The conflict created by prejudice resulted with growth in our understanding that all people deserve equal respect and rights. Hopefully, this conflict will lead to higher expectations of ethical behavior from ourselves and our leaders.