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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (11586)	3/16/1998 6:00:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Bob, Who do you think dwells in the Temple in Heaven? Who was showing it to John? The Temple is Yeshuas dwelling place, He told the Pharisee; destroy this TEMPLE and I will rebuild it in 3 days. There are other things barely mentioned and people have created great theology on them and I think this is unwise also. I posted later to Jane on Jesus that the Ark of the Covenant represents the Holy Spirit to me in the OT. When the side of the Lord was torn I believe the access to Heaven was opened and not abolishing everything but completing it and making it available to all men. I wish I understood what verse you refer to when you say the scriptures were or old way was imferect. The verses I think you are referring to says the new one is superior to the old but both are from God and I see everything He does as perfect, the people involved were imperfect but the Law and the covenant God made were and are perfect but the completed covenant is superior to the first. The old saved the ones that were in the sacrifical system it was not permantent but I don't think Moses, Elijah, Daniel and others are in hell. At one point I was going to stop celebrating the feast but then I realized that there are very few people on earth that understand how He fulfilled them and it is right to celebrate the complete plan from the beginning for me. There is allot to learn through understanding the feast; like Pentecost= the Jewish feast was a celebration of the harvest and Moses coming down the mountain with the tablets, well 3,000 people died the day Moses brought the Law into the earth and 3,000 were saved the day the Holy Spirit came to the earth both happening on the same day,also, they read the book of Ruth which you can see clearly the foretelling of Ruth as the church and Naomi as Israel and Boaz as the Messiah, this is read at the time of harvest for Messiah is harvesting the Church and Naomi is waiting. This is also the only feast that God told them to use bread made with yeast and to have 2 loaves instead of 1. To me it was a foretelling that sin (represented by yeast) would be atoned for by a Boaz (Messiah) and there would be 2 sheep pens( Messiah said I have sheep from another pen). So I can go on and on as to how perfect you can see Gods plan in the OT. I have seen more burden put on keeping none Biblical Holidays like the worship of Ishtar (Easter) and Christmas, So I celebrate His fulfillment of the Feast and He is the reason for the feast as Paul said in 1 Cor. 5 concerning Passover; let us celbrate the feast together and I can share many verses on the Apostles keeping the feast and I am sure they would be shocked at the attitude today about them. The issue in Romans 14 was with food sacrificed to idols causing your brother to stumble and when he was with a Jew he acted like a Jew. The Galatians 3:10 say those who rely on the Law. I rely on the Messiah and say that clearly to all and do not hid to celebrate what God has designed. I still think there is tremendous misunderstanding of the law. But that is OK and I take my faith as a personal relationship with Him and respect yours to be the same. Nancy

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (11586)	3/17/1998 1:36:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

The Tabernacle and its furnishings were simply figures--- The Tabernacle and everything in the Tabernacle was a figure or a symbolic representation of ultimate reality--Christ. Jesus is the Word--the law and commandments of God symbolized on the tables of stone. Jesus is the loving supernatural provider for all His creation as symbolized in the manna. Jesus is the eternal regenerative power who gives life as represented in Aarons' rod. Those who continue to follow and preach the efficacy of the figure have not yet experienced the reality. An illustration might help. Those who have a bank book with figures showing they have $1, 000,000 in the bank hold tightly to their bank book. After the million dollars has been withdrawn for the purchase of material goods, the figures in the bank book become wothless. So it is with the figures in the Old Covenant. The Church--the true Israel of God has retained them because they are a Holy record of Gods' dealing with mankind. Chapter: Heb.9 1: Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. 2: For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary. 3: And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all; 4: Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant; 5: And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly. 6: Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. 7: But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people: 8: The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: 9: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;