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To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18039)	3/16/1998 11:02:00 PM
From: Dead Columbo	Respond to of 24154

Most people think the function of the operating system is to provide services to application programs, and not worry about whose application is running, but that's one of those outdated CS concepts that the Microsofties, with minds beyond the capabilities of mere mortals, can't be bothered with. The whole thing gives me a terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side. I rise from the the dead to bow to thee, Oh Grand Poobah. (for a month or less) MH #0

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18039)	3/16/1998 11:29:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Microsoft Plans Publishing Partnerships, Gates Says techweb.com This is about this ninemsn business in Australian. Presumably the Aussies are not properly informed about what happens to Microsoft "partners" in the normal course of events. But never mind that, I prefer to look for the random asides. Windows 98 is expected to be released in the middle of this year, and the U.S. Justice Department's ongoing investigation of the company is not hindering the company's work on ongoing projects, Gates said. "We are pushing ahead on all our products -- there is nothing going on in the legal arena that in any way affects what we are doing," he said. "Everything we are doing in NT 5 and Windows 98 is completely unaffected by that." Of course it's unaffected, as long as you refuse to acknowledge the existence of antitrust law. Bill's not a legal expert, he says, but he's still the one to make all relevant decisions in this sphere. Another Microsoft innovation, I assume. Cheers, Dan.

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (18039)	3/17/1998 1:19:00 AM
From: Scott Pease	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 24154

I agree we can expect to see more features like this. From Microsoft's perspective, what's fair is 100% control of everything. Most people think the function of the operating system is to provide services to application programs, and not worry about whose application is running, but that's one of those outdated CS concepts that the Microsofties, with minds beyond the capabilities of mere mortals, can't be bothered with. The whole thing gives me a terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side. Its weird hearing the hypocrisy of this. If you remember when Sun released Solaris a while back, they took the C++ compiler out of the standard install kit. People were howling, what kind of Unix machine ships without a compiler? Even nowadays people grumble. No one but technoweenies care what makes up an OS. The reality is that the consumer would love if EVERYTHING was sold with the computer. If I bought my machine, and never had to buy another piece of software, I'd love it! Of course, it has to be cheap -- the new price points of $1500-2000 is about all I'll stand. Obviously doing this is not economically viable right now, since the increase in volume does not justify the additions. And of course someone will be clever and release a machine without all the software, and charge a whole lot less. Does it suck for Netscape that Microsoft has squished them like a bug? Yes. Does it really matter for biz/consumer market? not really. For all those who whine about Microsoft monopolizing the net, puhleeeze! Do I give a rats behind about Slate/MSN? nope. Will I ever subscribe to MSN services? Nope. I may visit a new Microsoft site because of the brand, but thats no different from picking up the latest Business Week rather than some new zine. We are not a nation of morons being led by the nose. Compete on technical prowess (easier to beat microsoft) or marketing (hard to beat MSFT). Quicken is doing it very well, RealAudio is doing it very well, ICQ is doing it very well, C/NET is doing it very well, and so on. Netscape is not. I don't believe in having quotes at colleges, nor do I believe in having browser-quotas... (for those who think I am bitter at Netscape, I am. I've owned the stock for a while, and all they have done is fumble the ball. From what friends at Silicon Valley tell me, morale at Netscape is in the pits).