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To: rhet0ric who wrote (9284)3/18/1998 12:24:00 AM
From: w molloy  Respond to of 152472
 
A can of worms is opening...

Dear rhet0ric

TCP/IP packets? What do you mean?

Without delving too deeply into arcana, TCP/IP is a protocol suite, and started out in the 60's as a government financed research project into packet-switched networks.

TCP/IP is properly considered as a combination of different protocols at various layers. It looks something like this

Application : FTP; e-mail; ping; et al
Transport : TCP; UDP
Network : IP; ICMP; IGMP
Link : ones own drivers, interfaces, whatever.
e.g SNDCP -> LAPm -> MAC - > CDMA/TDMA

An example of data transfer down the stack :
When an application sends data using TCP, the unit of data will typically have a header added. This composite is then added to by TCP and sent onto IP. This composite+ is called a 'TCP segment'. The header addition process is continued by IP, and composite++ is called an 'IP datagram'. What happens next depends on the physical interface. If you have ethernet, the IP datagram is typically fragnented into frames.

If you have a SNDCP interface, you will segment the datagram into packets. These packets are further processed into packet+ by some form of Link Access Protocol (LAP) and passed onto the Medium Access Control (MAC)layer. Finally, these packet+'s are passed onto the physical interface.

Confusing eh? :-)

If you are really, really interested, check out one or both of the
following

Stevens, W. Richard "TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1 : The Protocols"
Addison-Wesley 1994
ISBN 0-201-63346-9(v.1)

Tenebaum, S, Andrew "Computer Networks : 2nd Edition"
Prentice-Hall 1989
ISBN 0-13-166836-6
(I think the third edition is out now....)

w.



To: rhet0ric who wrote (9284)3/18/1998 12:44:00 AM
From: w molloy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
<If Qualcomm executes well, they could dominate mobile Internet messaging. >

Consider this.
After a quick canvas amongst my colleagues (the ones who haven't gone home yet) A typical 'Internet Messaging' session could be this thread.
At work I run a 21" screen and a seriously quick internet gateway.
At home I run a 14" screen and a 56KFlex modem, which gives me 26Kbit/s connections most of the time.

Perusing this thread at work is tolerable.
Perusing at home? Sooo sloooow.
Doing it on a small screen? No way!

What other 'Internet Messaging' services did you envision?
I can think of many specialist niche services, but very few services with mass consumer appeal.

Mobile wireless today has a long way to go.

I think we shall have to wait for wideband CDMA (in one or more flavor's) before we see anything with a mass market appeal.

What that 'anything' is is anyones guess.