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To: Skipperr who wrote (7192)3/21/1998 12:34:00 PM
From: Robert Graham  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
This market may provide an interesting learning experience for those using TA. Many are new to TA, and have learned in a strong market.. What we may be seeing is the strong inflow of money continues to support prices, but in place of the market's overall bullishness supporting higher prices. Once the inflow of fund from funds stop, I wonder if the TA the sophisticated investor has been seeing will then reveal itself in a falling or at least a cosolidating market? So perhaps what is to be learned here is that it is very helpful looking outside of TA for the bigger picture. In this case it is in terms of market fundamentals: the movement of large amounts of money into the market. Still I am sure TA is giving a picture that is worth taking seriously. But it comes down to market timing. It is just like a very strong rally and how this shows up in an overextended OB/OS indicator. Does this tell you when to sell? Of course not. But it is worth monitoring. This is one example where it pays to have price validate your indicators. This market requires a more discriminating look at TA. Watch other indicators like that of momentum fall in line to help paint a more convincing picture with technical analysis. For example, as far as the waning techs, I wonder to what extent the composition in the A/D line reflects this? Are there fewer techs making new highs? For that matter, are there fewer stocks making new highs?

The market moving up on a growing element of pessimistic sentiment IMO is not a bad situation. This may mean less sprightly and continued moves up, but this also can help the market to continue its move up. Perhaps this pessimistic sentiment will diminish when this market continues and hits 9000. I have seen this happen before. Also, weakening technicals can mean a consolidation rather than the significant market correction that some have been predicting. I do think 9000 will be psychologically an interesting number to watch the market respond to when it arrives there. This can tell us allot about the market sentiment.

Like I mentioned in my previous post, there is something significant that has changed with this recent rally, as though a familiar element is missing. Perhaps it is the funds themselves and how they are managing their money now. Perhaps it is the quick profit taking by allot of the players in the market. But I find it difficult to believe that the speculator is capable of changing their method of operation and actually become intelligent. Perhaps they are in other places in the markets, or many of the previous bull run are not participating in this bull leg of the market. I tend to believe that they are for the most part still with us, and perhaps they are finding the action in the small cap stocks.

I remember that before this rally started, there was strong evidence that many (speculators) were looking for a reason to move back into the market. This together with the eventual comittment of fund from the institutions like the fundies would give us another impressive bull run in the market. Not to say that this run is insignificant. But I thought this market leg would be more in character what we were seeing in the previous bull run, just more of it: speculator exhuberance and volitility. We do have from the outset participation in the small caps, and we do have the market blowing off further signs of a slowdown in earnings growth. But is this caused by the huge money inflow into the market, or by the speculators themselves? How to tell the difference?

The professionals are the intelligent ones that (have to) adapt to the current market and are capable of taking quick profits. They also can take the other side of an upcycle by the market. Then there is that program trading which I think has helped some of these day end up on the plus side in the last half an hour of the day when the day looked like it was going to close in negative terratory. Perhaps with the more visible aspect to the market defined by indices like NASDAQ and DJIA, we are seeing the more professional element in action along with the fund money.

My take on this so far. limited as it may right now, is that most of what we have been seeing is motivated by institutions and the professionals. But the breakout by the Russel 2000 to new highs indicated that the speculators are alive and well in the market place which has the potential through relative illiquidity to provide them with the breathtaking price action that they have come to expect from the market itself. I would not be surprised if the Biotechs take off. We have already been seeing action from the pharmecuticals in the past. This can lead to interest in the russian roulette game called the Biotech industry. Definitely an industry to be approached soley on the story (hype) and its supporting technicals.

Whatever the reason for the current maket, when the music stops (money inflow from funds), will there be chairs waiting for the rest of us??

Bob Graham

PS: I am going to have to break down and purchase a larger drive so I can reload my TA software. I understand 5 G drives can be had for about $300. Is this true?



To: Skipperr who wrote (7192)3/21/1998 3:48:00 PM
From: Chris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
one thing i want to point out:

i think momentum indicators are the key.. overbought/oversold oscillators are ineffective IMO..

if you are a technician, you should know that OB/OS oscillators do not work in a TRENDING MKT. we are in one right now.

it's the momentum indicators that i look at.. as you know, a stock/mkt that is overbought can continue to go up.. perhaps the pullback is a bit stronger, but hopefully your momentum indicators will forewarn you that.

just my thoughts to your statement:
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Also, another observation. Last week on Silicon Investor, it seemed that everyone was bearish. I've seen that before and the market acted then as it did now; it went up. These are sophisticated investors using good TA programs. I'm wondering if all previous forms of TA are somewhat outdated because everyone is using similar oscillators, etc. If we want to stay ahead of this market, maybe we should come up with new ways to identify undervalue, overvalue, and getting with the trend and just staying with it.>>>

WELCOME BACK SKIP.



To: Skipperr who wrote (7192)3/21/1998 3:55:00 PM
From: Chris  Respond to of 42787
 
ENERGY SELECT

Subject: Fidelity Select Sector funds

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To: Rosalie Deacetis (751 )
From: Bernie Kaplan Wednesday, Mar 18 1998 11:24AM EST
Reply # of 764

Construction has been favorably positioned for more than a month, and the fundamentals for this sector have been improving quite a bit lately. Lower interest rates obviously help homebuyers and the lending requirements of builders, lower paper and lumber prices also help to moderate costs, and recent merger activity in the concrete business has given the fund an additional boost this week. Usually a neglected Select Fund, it has done very well this year and is currently generating the fourth best composite momentum in the family.

Where Energy Services is concerned, the fundamentals have not changed at all but we are seeing some bottom fishing at support levels this week. This helps long time sufferers to recoup a bit of their losses, but this fund is still a long way off from establishing a convincing and sustainable uptrend as opposed to its intermediate five and six days runs it has put together this year. As depressed as this fund is, waiting for a genuine uptrend will still hold plenty of upside potential, so impatience at every breath of life is not necessary and could result in a serious case of whiplash if this fickle sector plays its tricks on you again. It would not surprise me, however, if this fund turns into one of the top performers in the family during the second half of the year, but much depends on oil prices and there is little longer term relief in sight right now.

Bernie Kaplan
www.sectorfunds.com

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To: Skipperr who wrote (7192)3/22/1998 10:54:00 AM
From: Chris  Respond to of 42787
 
Subject: Fidelity Select Sector funds

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To: Dennis (762 )
From: Paver Sunday, Mar 22 1998 5:27AM EST
Reply # of 765

Dennis,

Fidelity Small Cap Stock Fund opened on the 12th. Symbol FSLCF. The fund is no load and the 3% normal load charged by Fidelity is waved if the fund is held for three years (1095 days).

For more information: personal31.fidelity.com:80/gen/mflfid/9/315912501.html

Iam not a 100% sure but think FSLCF opened at 10 (where I have seen a lot of there new funds open at), as of Friday was at 10.42, hard to get quotes on being so new.

Paver

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To: Skipperr who wrote (7192)3/22/1998 10:56:00 AM
From: Chris  Respond to of 42787
 
magellan, contrafund and growth & income in the fidelity family are closed to new investors.. we own all 3 and very happy with the results..

im in the process of putting $$ into the select fund account and im ready to go within a couple days..



To: Skipperr who wrote (7192)3/22/1998 11:31:00 AM
From: Chris  Read Replies (7) | Respond to of 42787
 
OSCIALLATORS VS. MOMENTUM

continuing with the discussion on which type of indicators work best, i mentioned that overbought/oversold oscillators (ie: stochrsi, cci, stochastic, etc) work better in a consolidation mkt/environment.

i said that momentum indicators (trix, macd, moving averages, momenutm) should be used in a TRENDING mkt (right now).

if you look at this dell chart,

geocities.com
(hit the refresh button to insure latest image)

you will notice:

OB symbols in the price chart window. these are in fact my symbols whenever an overbought condition exists.. notice during the DELL rally, the OB very rarely called any pullback.. dell just kept on chugging upwards regardless of the ob condition. thus, my statements that when stocks are trending, put less weight on OB/OS oscillators.

notice on the left side of the chart, around december 1997, there was an OB symbol and DELL did pullback form 45 to 40.. that was b/c DELL was not in a trending mode, and that was when the OB/OS oscialltors work the best.

another example would be the early jan 1998 OB symbol. somewhat late calling the OB condition, but it clearly shows that a pullback was seen.

and finally compare with the OB price action when DELL was rallying.. any pullback was nonexistant..

know your indicators and know when to use them...



To: Skipperr who wrote (7192)3/23/1998 11:15:00 AM
From: Chris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42787
 
what is your opinion on Energy Select Fund? time to get in right???