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To: Druss who wrote (3895)	3/23/1998 12:14:00 AM
From: BamaReb	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12754

<<For now explain Malvern Hill if Lee only made one mistake.>> Malvern Hill was part of the Seven Days Campaign from June 25 - July 1, 1862. Why do you ask? This was by no means a blotch on Lees record. He was brilliant as usual. McClellan had 80,000+ men to Lee's 55,000. Again, history shows he out meneuvered and out classed the yanks by driving them away from Richmond and into an un fortified offensive position. Malvern Hill, which was the last day of the Seven Days Campaign was a Union victory as far as body count goes (5300/3200) but McClellan never stopped his retreat. You should also note that the Rebels lost so many men at Malvern Hill due to the superior Northern artillery barrage, not the skill of its soldiers. This was not a tactical error on Lee's part. It was simply a case of an army coming up short against a barrage of cannon fire. <<However the South did have Sterling Price and Bragg.>> Sterling Price? Who the hell is he? Braxton Bragg I'll concede. Very much like McClellan, great tactition, dog shit field commander. <<16,000 not 6,000>> Not accurate. I have 3 sources that put it at 6000. <<He was whipped roundly by Grant and forced to withdraw from Jackson.>> Grant NEVER saw action at Jacksonn Missisippi. Sherman destroyed much of Jacksons supply lines to Vicksburg after Johnston left. He left because he had 6,000 men compared to Shermans 25,000. <<I have a biography of Grant done by an Englishman who considers Grant to be the preeminant general of the Civil War.>> Grant was the lucky General who happened to be in command at the time of the Confederate surrender. He was notably one of the more aggressive Union Generals. Pre-eminant......not. <<Longstreet didn't want to charge at Malvern Hill or the third day of Gettysburg. >> Longstreet was wrong to drag his feet on the second day on G-burg. This very well could be the reason the rebs lost. The battle was lost on day 2. Day 3 was a mistake on Lee's part. Longstreet was not the only one that thought Picketts charge was ill conceived. I don't defend Lee for that call, but Longstreet's job was to obey orders and carry them out ON TIME. His history is speckled with instances of hesitation. You may recall that Lee had gone on record before and during the war that the South could not win. The plan was to tough it out long enough to force the North to recognize states rights. While we may never know if this is what Jeff Davis wanted, Lee is known to have recognized this from the start. By spreading his troops out and using them as sparingly as possible, and at the same time keeping the Federals thinking that the South had more troops than they really did, Lee is easily on the top of the General Brag list. IMHO