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To: Richnorth who wrote (235)	3/23/1998 9:22:00 PM
From: bobby beara	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1615

>>>However, the German High Command was so confident that they never bothered to wake up their Fuehrer<<<< The Romans, the greatest conquering army of history treated their generals like superstars and God's. When they returned from victory, they had great parades to celebrate. However, to keep the generals humble, they had a servant whisper in the generals ear "All Glory is Fleeting, All Glory is Fleeting" during the whole procession. This humility kept the generals on their toes and never took Victory for granted. Arrogance, leads to failure. You can have the best tools, the best knowledge, the best circumstances but arrogance will kill you, it is the original sin. All of the great civilzations have risen and fallen, the Mayans, the Greeks, the Romans. These "fantastic tools" and great knowledge haven't help any of these civilizations create the utopia TB is talking about and every civilations has fallen because their moral and spiritual failure lead to cancer. Even the Romans, who understood this humility principle, were unable to tap into it in the end. You can't unless you are tapped into the Creator of the Universe and are living by His laws. >>>The Allies were so lucky, weren't they? An Act of God?!?!!<<< YES! Ask Eisenhower if it was luck. In the end Good does triumph over evil, although evil always looks victorious right up to a critical inflection point. This is where man humbles himself and asks God for help. I'd bet my last bottom dollar that those guys who were parachuting behind enemy lines and landing on the beach were on their knees making their peace with God the night before the invasion. They knew in advance that it was going to be bloody and survival chances were thin. These guys were great American Heroes and we and the whole world owes them the deepest debt of gratitude. We would not be sitting here today, with a plethora of wealth and freedom otherwise. Yes, an Act of God - ABSOLUTELY! >>>Ain't it too bad that, at that time, Yogi Beara was not yet around to tell the 'Krauts', "It's not over till it's over?" <<<< You got this beara tellin you guys that this market WILL be over When it's over -g- and when it's over, there will be two types of people, those that humble themselves and ask God for help (we will need it) and those that are so consumed with their greed and identify themselves through their possessions, who will end up on a brick red wall street. There are only two teams in this world, although the world doesn't understand this. I'm not on Hitler's team, how about you? bobby

To: Richnorth who wrote (235)	3/24/1998 3:24:00 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1615

<< the Germans could have dealt the Allies a crushing defeat had Hitler been awake to order the Panzer Divisions to roll into action. The Allies were so lucky, weren't they? An Act of God?!?!! >> Hitler was convinced (and the allies did all they could to keep him so) that Normandy was just a diversion and that the real invasion would come at the Pas de Calais. He would not have released the Panzer divisions to repel the Normandy invasion had he been awake. In fact, he did not do so for several weeks when it became quite obvious that Normandy was the real thing. Hitler and Rommel (in command of the French waterline defenses at that time) both believed Patton was the best American general and that he would lead the invasion of France. The fact that he was still back in England during the landings (in the doghouse because of slapping a GI) helped convince them that Normandy was a ruse. The allies had built up a cardboard army around Patton to fool German spies and reconnaisance. They even faked radio traffic for it. This was what the Germans believed would be the real invasion army. Hitler has been accused of a lot of things, but being a good general isn't one of them. Luck and acts of God had nothing to do with it.

To: Richnorth who wrote (235)	3/24/1998 8:06:00 PM
From: Serge Collins	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1615

Your theory is all very fine except that it misses the essential, and that is that the Allied invasion of Normandy had precious little with the Germans losing the war. The war was lost for Germany on the Russian front between 1942 and 1944. The Allied effort, although valiant, was but a sideshow, and that is the essential truth that is missed by many North Americans concerning WWII in Europe. Hitler, like Napoleon before him, suffered a dreadful defeat at the hands of the Russian army. Any claim to the contrary is pure revisionistic silliness.