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To: Jamey who wrote (12427)	3/25/1998 12:42:00 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

James, you make it almost sound as if God had an afterthought to save the Gentiles . Not so.Why do you think God chose Israel? Because they were strong? Because they numbered more than most? To only save physical Israel? oh by the way might as well throw in a few gentiles? God has not changed since day one. it is man that wants to change the story. BTW I hope we ALL meet in heaven for an eternity of praising the Father for conquering death for us. dcf

To: Jamey who wrote (12427)	3/25/1998 1:38:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

Dear James. You might want to add that the spiritual veil and blinding in part put upon them by God Himself will be removed. And that blinding is there for the sake of the Gentiles so how can they not want it to be removed and them reunited with the Lord. In Romans when Paul speaks of being grafted into the tree he says a few times for the Gentiles not to become concieted towards the natural branches. Well we can see this has become a problem for some. They think God has planted a new tree. I have never said that there is any other way to the Father and have told many Jews that message, however I believe the scriptures reveal a time of reconciliation of Israel with the Messiah and that is it. They believe this is the Kingdom now and it is not the entire promised kingdom of Yeshua only part. The Jews were predestined to stumble in Peter for the Gentiles because God loved the Gentiles so much He gave His son and these people for them to have this awesome grace. Then Israel will come in and the Kingdom will be complete as His Glorious Bride. Dispensationalism is sound doctrine this other stuff is to far out for me. Thank you for your posts, Nancy

To: Jamey who wrote (12427)	3/25/1998 7:54:00 AM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

James, You dodged the difficult question I asked you. You seem to be saying God has lied when He said no one will go to the Father except through Jesus. And then you violate a basic principle of God's character by saying He will over ride the free will to choose salvation by bringing the whole physical nation of Israel into the kingdom of God against their will. Jesus would not even chase the young rich ruler who did not want to give up his riches. He let him go his way and then said how difficult it is for a rich man to enter in. I think you are way off on this James. Bob