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To: epicure who wrote (19276)	3/27/1998 9:10:00 AM
From: MSB	Respond to of 108807

The little girls might be safe, but what about the other little boys.

To: epicure who wrote (19276)	3/27/1998 12:41:00 PM
From: Graystone	Respond to of 108807

It is interesting to note that the older of the two boys requested some "scripture" while the younger requested his Mom. My heart goes out to the families of the victims, education could have prevented this needless tragedy. Jilted young people are the norm, if they have a solid basis for understanding the real world around them, these tragedies could be avoided.

To: epicure who wrote (19276)	3/27/1998 2:44:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

You know, X, you have hit on an essential truth of skillful parenting practices that has somehow eluded me all these years. When I read your post I thought, WOW, why didn't I think of that!! Yes, teach your children to be homosexual, and everything will be better!!! One of those three little girls who was murdered by their heterosexual mother went to school a mile from here. It was really gruesome, as I'm sure you've read--she duct-taped their noses and mouths, one by one (what were the second and third tiny victims feeling--they must have been terrified) and then pushed their heads face-down on the bed until they suffocated to death. Then the mother had a nice cup of cocoa!!! Now I would really, really like to be a grandmother. In fact, it is my only goal in life. It has occurred to me since this latest tragedy that there have been absolutely no child murders around here by lesbian mothers, and we have Heather and her two mommies living on nearly every block in some neighborhoods. So I really think that if I can just convince my dear sweet teenager to be a lesbian too, I stand a greater chance of a little Heather calling me Grannie someday, and surviving her childhood to boot. But you know, when I think about it, it's just not that easy to indoctrinate a child into a homosexual lifestyle. Mine has had several gay teachers, starting with the first grade, and none of it wore off yet. Now, in middle school, the partners of her homosexual drama and physical education teachers visit the school frequently, and help with plays and after-school sports activities, and still I see no hopeful signs of conversion in my daughter. Why, I do not know, because we have taken homosexuals on vacations with our family, celebrated holidays with them, and had them over to dinner since she was a baby. You'd think she'd start getting the picture or something!! It's not that she's not curious--when we were at the grocery store checkout counter and saw the People with a pregnant Jodie Foster on the cover, she even asked, "Mom? Did she do it with a guy, or a turkey baster?" So it's not like she doesn't know on some level how to get pregnant with just a girlfriend, or that women need men like fish need bicycles or anything!!! And when her schoolmates, Smells Like Fish and Make a Wish, were in the the middle of a very hot lesbian love duo, all the children made up sweet, funny poems and songs about them, but none of the other girls paired off, although they certainly could have, since they all spend weekend nights in bed with each other. What's a mother to do? I have tried everything, and have somehow reared a staunch heterosexual right in the middle of Sodom and Gomorrah. You would think all San Francisco children would grow up to be gay, wouldn't you? I mean, there are certainly enough homosexual role models around here. I guess I am going to have to go to the public library and do some research. I know that "Heather Has Two Mommies" is for little girls, but I bet there is a whole shelf of books on how to get your teenager to be Gay and Proud!!!!

To: epicure who wrote (19276)	3/27/1998 4:15:00 PM
From: jhild	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 108807

Homosexuality, to me is kind of a different strokes thing. Now as a guy, that finds women attractive, I can completely relate to and understand how women can find other women attractive. Since I sure do. I notice though that most of the talk about homosexuality in these discussions is directed at the male flavor, with little notice given to lesbianism. Further, it seems to me that most of the negative comments about homosexuality are also coming from men. (Statistically skewed no doubt by the demographics of posters at SI, but, even if normalized, not necessarily invalidating of my observation.) So if I find women attractive and other women find women attractive, hey maybe even the same woman, then how is it that I as a man can condemn a woman for wanting/desiring, maybe even acting upon, that attraction. If it is a satisfactory relationship for them, who am I to to say it is wrong, in and of itself? Flip the roles now and I wonder how women came blame, or otherwise not relate to the fact that men may find other men attractive? Especially, if they themselves find men attractive, and they have acted on that. So if you would deny the right to another to be attracted to, and act upon, something you permit yourself, then I wonder how you can think you are judging others consistently with your own rules of behavior. As a postscript, I would say that the spreading of Aids is a silly rationale for condemning male homosexual behavior. If that is the case, then we must condemn heterosexual behavior, because, after all, we could catch syphilis or herpes.