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To: jhild who wrote (19312)	3/27/1998 4:45:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

If I remember correctly Christine and I many moons ago stated our opinion that women are, in general, more comfortable with homosexual feelings and probably more accepting of affection between all sexes. I don't find it threatening nor terrible, nor do I think my children are endangered by homosexual teachers any more than they might be by a heterosexual one. But every time we try to distinguish between pedophilia or sexual abuse and homosexual behavior, it seems we hit some sort of strange wall in those who believe they are perverted deviates and that these behaviors somehow go together. X and CGB are trying through very funny and clever parody and satire to show the illogic behind the arguments and positions. I wonder if men have to go through the whole logical process that you did to accept that just maybe they shouldn't judge? WOmen seem to get there more instinctively. But I know I'm generalizing terribly-I DID read Jane's posts and I don't think I've ever read anything less compassionate.

To: jhild who wrote (19312)	3/27/1998 5:24:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>Homosexuality, to me is kind of a different strokes thing. < I'm told the strokes are more or less the same... :-)

To: jhild who wrote (19312)	3/27/1998 8:48:00 PM
From: Charliss	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Thank you for this intelligent posting! Very often, conventional thinking is simply too mediocre and unimaginative, and too concerned with power, to grasp that which desperately needs to be understood if we are to transcend the barriers to the awareness of Love's presence. Refreshing. Thanks again. I arrive here via the mention of this forum by Christine during one of her WFMI postings (I am a long time holder of this stock) Best, Charliss

To: jhild who wrote (19312)	3/27/1998 8:57:00 PM
From: Intrepid1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

As a postscript, I would say that the spreading of Aids is a silly rationale for condemning male homosexual behavior. If that is the case, then we must condemn heterosexual behavior, because, after all, we could catch syphilis or herpes. jhild, I had a herpes, but then I got implants. purething

To: jhild who wrote (19312)	3/28/1998 12:08:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

jhild, I think some of the things you are talking about in your post may have to do with the differences between men and women. Women are feminine by definition--it is a state of being. They are pretty secure in their basic identity, for the most part. Men, on the other hand, need to prove their masculinity over and over again by performing during the sex act. So in a way, women ARE, and men DO. This is a gross simplification, but what I am getting at is that a woman's basic identity is not threatened by making love to another woman. On the other hand a man, if he is homosexual, unless he is always dominant, is playing the part of the woman. Because being penetrated rocks the basic concept of male identity, I think it may be more threatening and anxiety-provoking to other men to have to confront this dichotomy, since in the primitive brain men are always pumping themselves up to perform, symbolically in battle, but really in many ways every day, and the thought of being penetrated makes them extremely vulnerable. Since no one is truly absolutely heterosexual, remembered small attractions to other men, perhaps during the teenage years, also threaten to come back to the surface of the psyche, and that is disturbing. This theory would fit in nicely with the studies that show that men who are most aroused by watching videos of homosexual sex are the ones who are also rated the most homophobic after they have answered questions about their attitudes and opinions on this subject. Most women are more tolerant than men about homosexual men. Gay men are, stereotypically at least, wonderful friends for women, because many of them are interested in the arts, cooking, decorating, talking, and a lot of subjects in which women have more natural interests. My reaction to gay men when I was young, was typically something like, what a waste!! But on the other hand, what gay men are interested in doing sexually is NOT penetrating a woman, and women usually desire to be penetrated by men, although they do not have this expectation with a woman. So if a woman absorbs from a man that he is not up to that, the very basis of a possible attraction, and the chemistry, are gone. This is sometimes disappointing, but not really threatening. One other point is that I don't think female homosexuality is very threatening to men, and maybe that is why throughout history, lesbians have been able to blend in and get their romantic needs met, and even live together as couples, without as much difficulty as homosexual men have had. Finally, there is the fact that most heterosexual men are aroused by fantasies of two women together, whereas most women are not aroused by the thought of two men together. So different buttons are being pushed in each case. AIDS is a silly rationale for condemning homosexual behavior. I think this argument is made for the most part by the same people who consider homosexuality a sin, or something that can be fixed, instead of a character trait, or something that one has to live with. I am not sure why people believe this, but maybe it is a rationalization that covers up deeper fears.