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To: Woody_Nickels who wrote (7585)3/28/1998 11:46:00 AM
From: Hippieslayer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 11555
 
Here's a review I pulled off of the Centaur site. Keep in mind that this guy isn't comparing the C6 to a Pentium but to a Pentium Pro!
A review of IDT WinChip by Rich Schinnell

I received the computer all set-up with Windows95
on Wednesday the 8th of October. Unpacked and set
it up in my home computer room alongside all the
other Adult toys.

This is what I received:

Holco Shuttle 565 Motherboard: Socket 7 with 200MHZ
IDT WinChip

Intel 430 TX Chip Set

Award 4.5x BIOS (Dated September 19th, 1997)

512 KB Level 1 Cache

32 MB EDO DRAM 60 ns

Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 (S3 Virge) w/2MB EDO DRAM,
driver 4.03.00.3211.

Western Digital Caviar 1.6 GB IDE Hard Disk

Samsung 24x CD-ROM

ESS 1768 PNP Sound Card

1.44 MB floppy

Baby AT Case w/230 Watt Power Supply

Windows 95 OSR/2 installed on the hard disk using
FAT 32.

It was completely set-up and ready to run, once I
had plugged in my monitor, keyboard. speakers and
mouse.

I was thinking of running bench marks of the IDT
WinChip C6 200 vs the Pentium Pro 200 or my Pentium
90. but decided that it would only give me a bunch
of numbers which would not mean much and there is
already lots of really technical stuff being
published. I personally find most of it boring, as
I am one that really wants to do work on the
computer. And of course a little playing.

I decided instead to install some of my normal
applications software like Corel Suite 8 and
Microsoft Office 97, Internet Dial Up, Netscape and
MS Internet Explorer WWW browsers and my mail
client Eudora Pror. All I could throw at it
installed without a hitch and each appeared to work
as well as they do on my PP200.

One of the biggest bottlenecks in most computers
are in three areas: Hard disk access times, Graphic
adapter speed and the nut that's holding the
keyboard, once you have a fast processor and the
IDT WinChip is one fast processor.

After all the software that I normally use was
installed, I wanted to check out how the system
would react to new devices so I then installed an
Intel PCI Ethernet card without any pains
(translation Aggravation) and it worked perfectly.
I also installed a IOMEGA ATAPI/IDE 100Megabyte
removable drive. Piece of cake. That's one of the
things that I like about Windows95, it recognizes
them easily and installs needed drivers with a
minimum of aggravation. Now Windows NT 4.0, that's
another story regarding compatibility and ease of
adding strange devices.

The company that put this system together for IDT
was smart enough to copy all the Windows95 files to
a WIN95 sub directory on the hard disk to save me
the work of inserting the Windows95 CD-ROM into the
CD-ROM drive. Great option, it sure makes it easier
to change system options and install new devices.
(What they did was to copy all the files from the
MS Windows95 CDROM \WIN95 directory into a sub
directory on the hard disk with the name \WIN95).
Great little trick. When it asks for the Windows
CD-ROM, I only have to change the location box to
the C:\WIN95 directory instead of finding and
inserting the Windows95 CD-ROM.

Everything that I could run or execute on the
machine showed the IDT WinChip to be comparable to
a my Pentium Pro 200 machine, except is noticeably
faster than my Pentium 90 or 133.

I ran Data base and communications programs along
with Word Processor and Internet clients. I did not
bench mark running them to the tenths of a second
but I will say this, the IDT WinChip 200s time was
almost identical in re-indexing a huge dBASE III
file. For most everything I could run, I could not
tell the difference between my PP200 and the IDT
WinChip 200. I know that there has to be some
mathematical speed difference but the main use of
the FPU is in my estimation and experience, a
function that not many of us know when it comes
into play. I reformatted WordPerfect and MS Word
documents and did all the little things that I
normally do and I could not see any noticeably
differences between the IDT WinChip and the Pentium
Pro 200.

I ran a test where I turned the power off and
removed the fan assembly from the top of the chip
and placed my hand on the chip, it was cool to the
touch. I then turned the power on but it got too
hot to touch in about 5 seconds. I highly recommend
that you not try to run one without the fan
connected as it could damage the chip beyond
repair. That has always been one thing that
bothered me about CPU fans, they should have some
kind of interlock with the BIOS that prevents
booting without the fan operating.

I could probably snow many of you by using the Ziff
Davis Winbench or Winstone bench marking program
scores, but what would that prove? A source of
bench marks and more technical information can be
seen on the WWW at:
sysdoc.pair.com

More information from Centaur Technology (They
designed the chip) can be obtained at:
winchip.com

Hint!, this chip compares quite favorably to its
competitors, except in the FPU area. Beats them to
heck in the power consumption and size statistics.

cThe "Mine is Bigger than Yours" syndrome still
prevails in the personal computer arena. So those
of you that delight in the Winstones and Winbench
values can visit the Websites above.

Conclusion:

With the price of the Intel Pentium 200MHZ MMX at
around $200, and if the IDT WinChip sells below
$150 , it will be well worth picking the IDT
WinChip C6 200MHZ CPU for non FPU intensive use. .
As a small business consultant, I would not
hesitate in recommending the purchase of computers
using the IDT WinChip 200 MHZ C6 for my clients.

Rich Schinnell is the 1st vice president of 5000
member Capital PC User Group, having retired from
the USN and Vitro corporation and is now consulting
for small business's. Rich has been writing a
monthly advice and product review column for the
Capital PC User Groups award winning Monitor
magazine since the 80's. He has his own web page
at: cpcug.org and can be
E-mailed at schinnel@cpcug.org. Phone calls in the
evening (301) 949-9292, from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. EST
for those who might be Internet challenged. He
enjoys helping users with their problems, even
though with Windows95 problems, it is similar to
conducting brain surgery over the telephone.

He does not presently have any financial interest
in or own stock in Intel, AMD, Cyrix or IDT.

Products mentioned here include Copyrights and
trademarks which are the property of their
respective owners. Reproduction rights reserved.




To: Woody_Nickels who wrote (7585)3/28/1998 1:12:00 PM
From: Charlie Tuna  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 11555
 
Another Interesting Aritcle:
news.com

I like the part about IBM needing to get an x86.Man of Man
you know it is not cyrix and I doubt it could be AMD and unless
they have some secret project that just leaves one......
I am not starting a rumor and have no position in IDT(damm!)
Charlie