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To: Tony Viola who wrote (51831)	4/1/1998 5:31:00 PM
From: AK2004	Respond to of 186894

Tony re: when it comes to CPU's, we will never compromise reliability, we will use only the best, at work, or at home, you know who makes them, and, who, give me a clue, is it sun, dec, ibm, cyrx or amd? -Albert

To: Tony Viola who wrote (51831)	4/1/1998 5:39:00 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony, RE:when it comes to CPU's, we will never compromise reliability, we will use only the best, at work, or at home, you know who makes them IBM? Right. Don't they make chips for Cyrix, and soon AMD, IDTI? Message 3901289 Bob

To: Tony Viola who wrote (51831)	4/1/1998 6:04:00 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony, when it comes to CPU's, we will never compromise reliability I feel an obligation to do you a favor and let you in on a secret: You are fighting a war that doesn't exist. It's all in your head. For the second time, the CPU is just about the most reliable part of the computer. Let me give you some hints about things that fail a lot more frequently: Power supplies fans, floppy drives hard drives tape drives keyboards mice power switches network cards SIMMs lose contact batteries and CMOS that store your setup Zip drives Jazz drives On software side, things that cause problems frequently (far more frequently than hardware): DOS Windows 3.1 Windows 95 Windows NT drivers to control the hardware devices shrink wrapped software custom developed software shareware freeware Utilities, setup, shortcuts that your MIS makes your own utilities, shortcuts, and changes to setup Things that fail very infrequently (if ever): CPUs chipsets RAM Joe

To: Tony Viola who wrote (51831)	4/1/1998 7:33:00 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony Viola, <spreading .. just knowledge based on 25 years in development, technology and reliability in computers and semiconductors.> Is that what your extensive experience tells you? Let see...just checking the source' credability: "Amdahl Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of Fujitsu Limited, provides integrated computing solutions.." So you are just a big screwdriver, right? The only difference is that you screw cables and do wireing for boxes you sell. Let me guess, you are allowed to unpack the computers, but can open the cover only in case of emergency, right? <The MIS support group is right down the hall from my office, and we are a $2 billion/year revenue company. Is that big enough?> Let's check again: amdahl.com "..or 2 cents per share. That compares to a net loss of $249,436,000 or $2.07 per share in the same quarter a year ago." (very impressive) ;) <My MIS friends and my computer development and technology peers all agree that, when it comes to CPU's, we will never compromise reliability,...> - for results see above :) <we will use only the best, at work, or at home, you know who makes them, ..> "The Amdahl product line includes powerful System/390 compatible CMOS based Global Servers; System/390 compatible RAID architecture storage systems; Windows NT based servers; and open systems storage subsystems. The company also provides industry leading hardware from third-party vendors, including Sun Microsystems" I hope I do not need to remind you that reliability comes from redundancy, error-correction, multiple reservation, etc, etc...

To: Tony Viola who wrote (51831)	4/1/1998 8:54:00 PM
From: gnuman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony, re: Bad yield and poor reliability are synonymous. You can't make that categorical statement. There are any number of reasons a product might not have high yield to it's specification that have no bearing on the reliability of the yielded product. The most common reason is probably speed bin, which is a yield issue even Intel faces. So unless you know the specific reason for the yield, you can't say it means poor reliability.