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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Elmer who wrote (30978)4/4/1998 12:39:00 AM
From: Ali Chen  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1573924
 
Elmer FUD: <I wanted to point out is that the K6 isn't taken seriously enough for it's bugs to be considered a problem.>
Have you noticed the word "extended precision" where this bug
was found?

Do you have any even approximate idea what this means?

Do you know that there is NO commercial compiler in the
world that supports this mode of operation?

BTW, it was nice not to see you here for a while. Why not you
go back where you have been, big "bug expert"?

P.S. Hey, guys, Intelafelons are flying back. Should we expect
new AMD rally?



To: Elmer who wrote (30978)4/6/1998 7:00:00 PM
From: Petz  Respond to of 1573924
 
Elmer, re:<FPU bugs>

The AMD bugs are much less serious than Intel "FDIV"
With "FDIV" thousands of divisors map to the bad lookup table entry, and EVERY numerator will cause an error with that denominator.

With the AMD FMUL bugs
1. It only happens in extended precision mode, which only a handful of applications use
2. There are only 8 64 bit multipliers for which the error can occur (compared to THOUSANDS of FDIV divisors)
3. For each one of these, there are only a few multiplicands which can cause the error; compare this with EVERY numerator for the Intel bug
4. NO COMMERCIAL APPLICATION HAS EVER BEEN DEMONSTRATED TO REPRODUCE THE BUG whereas the Intel bug could be demonstrated easily using any spreadsheet program ever invented.

The only reason Elmer brought this up again is because 1)there's no good news from Intel and b)he knows that the search capability of Silicon Investor doesn't reach as far back as the last discussion.

Petz