To: VLAD who wrote (6505 ) 4/6/1998 3:17:00 AM From: Bruce Olsten Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 23519
VLAD Here is a link to a pharmacy website that has a lot of experience with all of the ED meds. Call them up. They are very experienced with real-world success rates.thepillbox.com Here is an excerpt from one of their pages: "Our Position on Viagra. We are cautiously optimistic. It would seem Viagra has a strong future. However, it is important to remember that there are still several proven ways of treating male impotence. The most popular current treatment continues to be Penile Injection Therapy. It has proven to be both inexpensive and popular. Our Rx Compounding pharmacists are here to help you and your doctor or urologist formulate the right compound for your specific needs. " -------------------------------------- Another page from their site: "Comparison of therapies: 1. The V.E.D. (Vacuum Erection Device) The V.E.D. is an alternative that through the use of a vacuum tube and different sizes of rubber bands, keeps an erection for a limited amount of time. It works fairly well, but is cumbersome and certainly takes the spontaneity out of a sexual encounter. V.E.D. prices range from $395 to $595 2. The Urethral Insert The most recent entry into this market, the urethral insert is a long skinny suppository that is inserted into the penis. It contains prostaglandin, which when absorbed into the tissue causes an erection. The two drawbacks are that you have to insert this up the penis (catheterization), and it is rather expensive. The process costs about $25 to $30 depending on the strength of the dose. This is the cost per one use. 3. Penile Injection Therapy The most widely used method is penile injection therapy. Its main drawback is the fact that you have to inject the medication directly into the side of the penis. The vast majority of men have no problems and do not mind the minor discomfort of the injection. However, for men sensitive to needles, there are topical solutions that can be applied just prior to injection to briefly anethetize the area of injection. The main attraction of penile injection therapy is its reliability and the fact that the duration of your erection is easily regulated by the dose given. You can have your satisfaction and your partner can take as long as they need for theirs. Your penis stays erect even after ejaculation. No more nights of disappointing sex. Your partner will appreciate you even more. There are several different drug combinations that are widely used throughout the profession. Ask your physician about them, or call us to consult with one of our compounding pharmacists. We're here to help you and your physician formulate positive therapeutic results. As with all medications, there are limitations and possible side effects, but by far, the vast majority of men have no problems. " ----------------------------------------- They fill prescriptions for MUSE, Caverject, PPP (Papaverine, Phetolamine, PGE1), vacuum pumps, and are currently taking orders for Viagra. Give them a call and find out what really works according to their customers. I am in no way "anti-MUSE". I am "pro-knowledge". What really works? What are the real end-users going to gravitate to? Also, according to the guys on alt.support.impotence, the prostaglandin effect (hot dick) with Caverject is nowhere near as intense as with MUSE, perhaps due to scratching of the urethra. With the PPP mix, there is no "hot dick" effect. Perhaps if MUSE were re-formulated to avoid pain, and produced rock hard erections as well as the injectables, it would be the best product for moderate to severe ED. In it's present formulation, it may be in a distant second place. If I were an ED patient, I would want to try the meds in this order: 1. Viagra 2. Muse 3. Injectables Many who have tried MUSE and injectables have found the greatest success with the injectables. They say they will try Viagra at the earliest opportunity. If Viagra doesn't work they will go back to the injectables. Those who are presently happy with MUSE will try Viagra. If Viagra works they will abandon MUSE. If Viagra doesn't work, they will go back to MUSE. IMHO, MUSE will lose a lot of customers to both Viagra and the injectables. p.s. cost of PPP $1.25 - $3.75 per dose.