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To: Gauguin who wrote (9369)	4/7/1998 7:18:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Respond to of 71178

40 years old? easy to fix? Gonna hafta be a Bug. Or an old GI Jeep.

To: Gauguin who wrote (9369)	4/7/1998 8:13:00 PM
From: username	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

<<Any make and/or model suggestions with easier maintenance and reliability?>> Ah, we could start a new thread on this one. A few thoughts. Warning, no spell chekker. First, Alex, I was like that too. then that happened too. then I thought that too. Then I bought a 1969 Dodge Charger 440 for 1500 bucks and fixed it up. That was about 50 musclecars ago. The thing about them is that you can get them fixed up pretty easily, and it's "OK" if they are not concours. But I understand the clean thing. OK, a 40 year old car. That's kinda tough, because you are talking about what are now "classics". The side trim on a '57 Chevy (two pieces of chrome about 3' long) are worth big bucks. All the parts are worth a lot of dough. Moving into the early 60s would be better. The only "natural" choice is a Ford or a Chevy. Not my faves, but that is another thread. Every car nut in the world is looking for a good 40 year old car that they can drive and fix up cheaply. I've had success doing the following: find the car. (Parts-wise there is no contest, go with a Chevy. I'll find a site and post it so you can decide what you like). You want a car that has a V-8 motor. They had stronger front end mechanics. The car must be drivable. the things to watch for are a good interior and a decent body. The best place to check for damage from rust is the trunk. If the trunk has holes in it, you pass on the car. No car is perfect. But you find a car that runs and has a decent interior and a decent body, and a V-8 motor. You don't pay more than a grand for the car. You have to look around and wait but you don't pay more. You find a shop that will toss a "rebuilt 350 Chevy with a turbo 350 (automatic) transmission" in the car. That should run about 1600-2000 bucks. If you get lucky you can find a car that you can have the engine in the car rebuilt, thats less. Brakes and other mechanicals should run another 400 bucks. Then you call some shops and get quotes on uphostery. You should pay $300 or less for front and back seats and headliner. This is "non-stock" from any auto upholstery guy, he rebuilds the seats totally, including the padding, and everything. you pick the color. then you get quotes for the body work, should be about 300 bucks or less, and the paint (you pick the color) which is another 300 bucks or less. Result: for less than 4 grand, a really nice looking car you can drive for 3 or 4 years with minimal upkeep. BTW, 2 door cars are "collectors items", and 4 door cars are "junk". So you save big money on a 4 door. Second choice and even better, find a car that somebody else already did this all to and buy it really cheap. Not easy unless you live in the san fernando valley. Main thing is you want a Chevy 327 or 350 motor and an automatic trans. Primary rule, you look at the mechanicals, the interior, and the exterior. 2 out of three must be good. (good means needing no major work) Good body, good interior, no motor, that is a potential car. Good motor, good body, thrashed interior, OK. Two bad ones and you pass on the car. Next chapter: how to talk the seller down thousands of dollars and steal the car.

To: Gauguin who wrote (9369)	4/7/1998 8:21:00 PM
From: username	Respond to of 71178

check the cars on this page for less than 5 grand. this is what you can find for 2 or 3 grand if you hunt around. These are later than the early 60s, but check em out. dealsonwheels.com

To: Gauguin who wrote (9369)	4/8/1998 1:03:00 AM
From: Lady Lurksalot	Respond to of 71178

Oh Gaugie, where were you in 1982 when I had to all but give away my beloved chrome chariot? 207.183.153.73 It was powder blue, repainted only once, and expertly so. Everything worked, even the clock and the old tube radio. BTW, that old tube radio sounded great! I don't know why everybody chases after the 2-doors. Four-doors are much more stable and far less prone to developing annoying rattles. Lazarus had nary a rattle. A solid, quiet car, he was. I drove Lazarus across country more than a few times. It was like sitting in your living room, watching a video of the countryside, just like the Discovery Channel, only better. I lost contact with the person I sold Lazarus to, but somehow I don't doubt that he's still out there, still eating up the pavement somewhere. Something about that car seemed to say that it would go and go forever. Holly