To: Chris McConnel who wrote (8931 ) 4/7/1998 11:31:00 PM From: Nolan Toone Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
--- Chris, you said --- Nolan, I agree with you, Java is a GREAT language. Even MS admits major programmer productivity gains (vs. C++). My problem with Rod is that I think Java belongs on the server and not on the client. Rod seems to think that Sun's server biz is going to die unless Java clients are a success, which to me is the wrong of looking at this. ----------------------- But in a previous post --- you said ---- Well then, enlighten me!!! You keep saying Java is great, but you are not giving very many reasons why. So far, the only reason you have mentioned is because you feel that java will reduce trafic between client and server, which I disagree with. If you have other reasons written in another post, then just provide the link. ----------------------- that sounds like a contradiction to me, but never the less, I'll bite. What is the network traffic for a simple MouseDrag... Dumb X-Terminal: ---------- Every mouse move has to be sent to verify if it crossed over a boundary into a place you're interested in. If so you have to send back the icon image to display over that area. Java/NC ------- ZERO! all events are handled locally and only if you do something like actually drop the object and it has to fetch objects from the server is there ANY network traffic. Reduction??? ------------ For openers just count how many pixels you cursor crossed over and multiply that by about 64 bytes (Probably more depending on the packet size of your network) and that give you a *SMALL* idea of how much you save. More examples??? --------------- A simple button press: send one image to show a selected Icon, another to show the unselected icon. Window moves: the WHOLE WINDOW IMAGE for each mouse location. Iconifiy/DeIconify window: .... Well you get the picture (well, maybe if you're on a X-Term you'll have to wait till someone quits moving the mouse..