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To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	4/15/1998 6:55:00 PM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577883

Maverick, All TK is concerned with Intel long term perspective Regards -Albert

To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	4/15/1998 10:39:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1577883

<AMD's Last Chance> I noticed that with todays Intel announcement of 350 & 400 mhz versions of the PII processor, AMD is now 3 speed grades behind, 333,350 & 400. I believe this is the widest gap ever. In terms of frequency, Intel's top of the line processor is a full 33% faster than AMD's top of the line( 400/300), also the widest gap ever. In absolute numbers, AMD is 100mhz behind Intel, again the widest gap ever. Furthermore, AMD has just posted their worst loss ever. AMD is broke and falling farther behind the performance curve. Socket7 is all but dead and the market move to slot1 is undeniable. Intel's 100mhz bus is here and it will further speed the demise of socket7. AMD has no equivilant (other than promises). I think it is indeed the last chance for AMD, that is if it isn't already too late. EP

To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	4/17/1998 2:56:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1577883

Maverick Pentium II lacks killer software By Michael Kanellos Staff Writer, CNET NEWS.COM April 16, 1998, 1:15 p.m. PT news analysis Complex, data-heavy Web sites and business applications that only the fastest desktop computers can process are scarce, but these are exactly what Intel needs to drive sales of its Pentium II chip. At the moment, few business applications require consumers to graduate from low-end Pentium MMX computers to Pentium II systems. Intel, Microsoft, and other members of the computing industry are trying to persuade companies to write this kind of "killer" business software, but analysts say the mass popularity of power-hungry applications may be a long time coming. The quest for heavy-duty applications does not spring from a desire to annoy customers. Rather, it's part of the high tech industry's most pressing problem: Without the need for high-end systems, prices and margins will remain low, according to various analysts and computer executives. And, until that changes, computer vendors will likely continue to beat each other up in the low-cost segment of the market. Most users' need for additional speed was met a long time ago, when Intel introduced the 166-MHz Pentium MMX processor, said Kimball Brown, an analyst at Dataquest, a marketing research firm. Brown maintains that anything faster than this relatively low-end chip is overkill for the vast majority of buyers running standard business applications

To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	4/17/1998 2:57:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1577883

Maverick P II lacks killer apps, part III "From a software developer or Web site developer point of view, your market is the installed base, so you tend not to address your projects just at the high end," he said. But the industry will gradually move toward adopting more demanding technology, as it has with 3D, according to Hause. 3D demos have been standard fare at technology gatherings for years, he pointed out. This year, however, 3D is finally becoming a standard feature of business PCs. Chrome won't even be out until early 1999, according to Microsoft. Incorporating new technology into business PCs will take place slowly, said Stacy Hand, product marketing manager at Gateway 2000. Michael Takemura, product marketing manager for desktops at Compaq, concurred, stating that the more taxing applications will likely roll out over the long term. Graphics are not the only application that will require more processing power. Microsoft has touted voice recognition for years, and will come out with its first voice-recognition product when the Auto PC platform makes its debut this summer. Still, the quantum leap in application complexity has yet to occur. And without such applications, upward migration will be a tough decision to justify. "There is no real choice between talking machines or a GUI [graphical user interface]. There are no thinking machines yet. We haven't incorporated a ton of 3D into our business memos," Nathan Brookwood, also of Dataquest, told CNET earlier this year. "Without these computing-intensive applications, people are saying, 'Hey, I can spend $1,500 or $2,000 on a machine. I'll buy the $1,000 computer and a really good monitor.'"

To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	4/17/1998 2:57:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577883

Maverick Voodoo2 is scoring twice or even three times the frame rates of the K6-3D in any of the games I ran, but 3D Winbench 98 claims that their 3D performance is equal!!! tomshardware.com

To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	4/17/1998 3:00:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1577883

Maverick Intel will lose market share in 1998 because its chips are more expensive than its rivals Growth of PC microprocessor market to slow - study SAN JOSE, Calif., April 15 (Reuters) - Worldwide sales of x86 microprocessors, the most widely used primary chips in personal computers, will rise only 16 percent in 1998, reflecting collapsing prices, market researcher Dataquest said on Wednesday. Worldwide sales will rise to $22.72 billion in 1998 from $19.58 billion in 1997. In comparison, x86 microprocessor sales rose 24 percent in 1997 from 1996, said Nathan Brookwood, the Dataquest analyst who compiled the forecast. "That is a big drop, primarily because of lower average selling prices of microprocessors," Brookwood said. The price of an average PC has collapsed from about $2,000 to about $1,000, putting tremendous pressure on chipmakers to cut their prices, he said. x86 microprocessors are computer chips that perform the fundamental calculations of about 90 percent of the world's computers. Intel Corp. is the inventor of the standard and is by far the biggest producer, though it faces increasing competition from rivals like Advanced Micro Devices Inc. and National Semiconductor Corp. , which sell x86 chips for much cheaper. Brookwood said the biggest drag on growth was collapsing prices of chips destined for desktop PCs. The average price of these chips is expected to fall to just $154 in 1998, down from $175 last year, according to Dataquest. Chips for desktops account for about 60 percent of the total market. What's more, Intel will lose market share in 1998 because its chips are more expensive than its rivals. Its share likely will fall to about 92 percent in 1998, down from 93.8 percent in 1997 and 95 percent in 1996, Brookwood said. On Wednesday, the same day the report appeared, Intel unveiled the Celeron chip, a relatively cheap microprocessor designed to key PC makers from flocking to AMD and National Semiconductor. Brookwood said most of the worldwide microprocessor revenue growth in 1998 would come from sales of chips for high-end desktop machines, known as workstations, or for servers, the special computers that handle the flow of information through computer networks. ((--Kourosh Karimkhany in Palo Alto, 650 846 5401))

To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	4/17/1998 4:50:00 PM
From: greg nus	Respond to of 1577883

Maverick I'm confused is this AMD last chance, Very last chance or just another chance??? funny how Intel keeps giveing AMD just one more chance, but AMD somehow does'nt die. It's better than an Italina Opera Now if we can only get the fat lady(Dr victoria gate MD) to sing, we will all know we are very colse to the end. Madam Us AMD'ers are ready! PS parden my french.

To: Maverick who wrote (31926)	5/14/1998 1:59:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1577883

Maverick - China's Legend Computer Awards their Millionth PC to Intel' GROVE BRINGS HOME SOUVENIR FROM CHINA FOR INTEL MUSEUM Intel Chairman Andy Grove came home from his Asia-Pacific tour with the one-millionth PC produced by Legend, a Chinese original equipment manufacturer. Legend officials presented Grove with this gift at a standing-room-only press conference in Beijing, China. Grove watched a telelink to the company's manufacturing floor as the Pentium(R) II processor-based PC was being assembled, complete with its final touch - an Intel Inside(R) sticker. The PC will become part of the Intel Museum's permanent collection. {===========================} I knew you'd be interested to hear this. Paul