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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (463)4/18/1998 2:29:00 AM
From: DrMedina1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 702
 
Emile -- so you've noticed that non-messianic Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah. How very perceptive of you.

That doesn't make Jews the devil's children any more than any other sinful men. Preach the Gospel to every nation, the Jew first and also the Greek, and keep the bashing rhetoric to yourself -- not only with respect to Jews, but every other lost soul as well.



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (463)4/18/1998 12:13:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 702
 
Emile;

You seem to be representing yourself as God.

If the Jews acknowledge Jesus as a great teacher, then why dont they follow His teachings? Your very words reveal your lies and deception.

The lies are coming from your mouth Emile. It clearly states in the Bible thou shalt not Judge. Your screaming of who is going to Hell and who is going to Heaven is not your place. Calling the State of Israel satanic is 100% Judgmental and you will be Judged accordingly by God;

Lk:6:37: Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Jn:7:24: Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1Cor:4:5: Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.


This is what I believe you are by your own words;

Mt:7:15: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves

1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2: And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3: And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4: For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5: And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6: And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7: And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
9: The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11: Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12: But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13: And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14: Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16: But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17: These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18: For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19: While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20: For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21: For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22: But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


Alan



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (463)4/20/1998 2:35:00 AM
From: craig shipman  Read Replies (7) | Respond to of 702
 
Emile, many Christians (and unbelieving Jews)are deeply confused about what it is that Yeshua and His disciples actually taught. Yeshua came teaching, living, and keeping Torah, not as the Pharisees did, but as our Heavenly Father intended for mankind to.

Yeshua most assuredly did NOT render void ANY of the instructions in righteousness that Elohim gave to mankind, as most Christians believe, but instead taught others how to live in obedience to them in the way which best pleases their Heavenly Father. The Holy Spirit continues to teach Torah to all who repent of their lawlessness and embrace Yeshua as Messiah, writing those instructions in their hearts.

Yeshua did not proclaim any other/new way of salvation, not Christianity, and certainly not any other Pagan or Jew-hating religion.

Christendom's rejection of Torah and acceptance of things Pagan is a tremendous stumbling-block that prevents many Jews, who would otherwise believe, from embracing their Messiah.

Emile, I do realize that this is a difficult concept, especially for a Non-Jew, to understand/see. I pray Avinu will open your heart to these words.

Shalom,

Craig