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To: kennbill who wrote (32448)4/21/1998 1:18:00 PM
From: taxgun  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 41046
 
geez, these notes paste up quickly...you took me to literal, i
think...maybe you can get a straight answer from a regular, as i
am sure i dont know what i am talking about
jp



To: kennbill who wrote (32448)4/21/1998 1:24:00 PM
From: jim bowman  Respond to of 41046
 
Asset equity. Franklin owns it's stake. It shows up in book value. They own X% of the stock of FNET. They don't get "paid".



To: kennbill who wrote (32448)4/21/1998 1:30:00 PM
From: William Harvey  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 41046
 
Bill,

Maybe what we need is a definition of 'spinoff'. I use Wall Street Words by David L. Scott, School of Business Administration, Valdosta State Univ. He defines spinoff as, "Distribution to stockholders of the stock of a subsidiary held by a parent company. Normally the distribution is not taxable to the stockholders until the new shares have been sold."

As an illustration, he cites Amoco: "In 1985, Amoco distributed shares in one of its subsidiaries, Cyprus Minerals Company, to Amoco shareholders. As of June 19, the Amoco shareholders had received one share of Cyprus for every 10 shares of Amoco owned. The new Cyprus shares, which had traded in the over-the-counter market in the $12 to $13 range on July 1, approximately doubled in value within a year. Before the spinoff, Amoco stockholders had had no choice but to be owners of Cyprus because Cyprus was a 1979-acquired subsidiary of Amoco. Following the spinoff, however, Amoco owners could choose to remain stockholders in the minerals business or they could opt to sell their Cyprus shares. Amoco's stated objectives were to allow its management to concentrate on its core businesses in oil and gas and to divest itself of an investment with relatively poor earnings."

This sounds like a 'happy medium' that FTEL work out with the convertible preferred shareholders, ie, FNet will be something for them to hold onto even if there is no IPO by June 30. Lot of folks have been sitting on the fence, waiting to get in a good price. Seems to me like the last chance to buy FNet and FTEL at the same time is at hand. Think about it, separately they'll be worth a lot more than together.

BTW, how many DVGs do you see in today's press release? I see 100 before the year's out and that makes this FTEL's best year on record, as well as FNet's. Of course New York is going to need a lot more than two DVGs. DVG, no <GGGGGGGGGGG>

WH



To: kennbill who wrote (32448)4/21/1998 4:55:00 PM
From: STK1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 41046
 
Thats what I want to know Bill???What tangible compensation is FTEL getting for spinning off their share of FNET????And I don't want to hear of any IPO money crap.A vc will buy just as fast as an Ipo can go if not faster if the company is that good a deal.All the people that own FNet already or convertable shares are getting a lot.But what about FTEL people.OHHHH I forget we get share appreciation if an when Fnet goes up.If it goes down then we go down.GOOOOD we either got two winners or we got two loosers.Or maybe one winner and one looser.All i know is the unknown so while Iam not at all happy with the current arraingements I'll just wait and see ,hell I can either make a lot of money or loose the other half of my investment.Besides that, any body who would hold as much vocaltec as i do is crazy anyway right??????