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To: Artslaw who wrote (1634)	4/23/1998 9:01:00 PM
From: Juniper	Respond to of 2946

Steven, The beauty of it is that you won't know if Intel has gone with SVGI for .18, even when that order has been announced by SVGI. For some reason Intel seems to forbid being named in purchases as part of their contracts. The only way I know that SVGL is being used for current critical layer work is from the word of engineers who work there, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're offically not supposed to talk about any processes. Basically if SVGI announces an order of 20 Micrascans from an "undisclosed manufacturer of semiconductors", it's Intel.

To: Artslaw who wrote (1634)	4/24/1998 1:35:00 AM
From: FJB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2946

Steve, RE:I can't help but think SVGI would be crowing about it if they knew. No way. SVGI and all other Intel vendors can't even acknowledge simple orders, so how could they crow about 0.18(see below). If you go back through the thread, there is some good evidence for Intel using SVGL for it. Intel claims to have first silicon on 0.13 also. We probably won't be able to settle this bet til 2001, but I wager it was made on a Micrascan IV(ArF). These are just my educated guesses based on what I've read. No challenge intended. Bob PS In mid to early '97 Micrascan IIIs were being used for some 0.18 pilot stuff. I didn't go too far back in the thread, but I had to dig this article up for Mason, so it was already dated in Oct. '97 Message 2606133