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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (14670)	4/27/1998 9:30:00 PM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Bob, <<. It's hog wash. It's learned and I've said before the homosexual and lesbian community want to recruit our children into their "lifestyle" of perverse sin. It's a fact. They want to teach others to sin like they do.>> With all due respect, that is not a fact. It is your opinion. there are many learned scientists who have spent much time and effort on this subject. Most say it is genetic, some say it is learned. the only thing I can tell you is that the homosexuals that I know say they have been like that since birth. Homosexuals have no greater propensity to child molestation than heterosexuals. In fact, a preponderance of child abuse cases are heterosexual in nature.That is a fact!. Mark

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (14670)	4/27/1998 9:51:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 39621

><>...Evening Bob, This very paragraph is evidence that CGB...><> understands nothing at all concerning Jesus or the word of God! Only some Christians, very conservative ones, still interpret the Bible to mean that homosexuals are sinners. Many mainstream Christian churches now welcome homosexuals. There is evidence that some passages which were about homosexual prostitution, or heterosexuals committing homosexual acts, for example, were misinterpreted and mistranslated, and are now wrongly perceived as being about homosexuality in general. Some biblical scholars believe that Naomi and Ruth had a long and stable lesbian pairing. Jesus seems to be stressing loving one another in committed relationships, and does not mention homosexuality at all. They choose to believe those so called bible scholars as long as those Bible scholars argue their case for them...How convenient, how honorable! How truly hypocritical! She and other flaming liberals will only accept Jesus if He accepts their lifestyle! They want it all and they want it their way, no if and or buts.! Plain and simple! Jesus is not just a good man, not just a great teacher, not just a wonderful prophet. He was sent by God, born of the virgin Mary, suffered and was crucified died and rose again... for the sins of the world... He is the Christ! The living Son of God! God Himself! And some have the audacity to cast Him in the ordinary run of the mill teacher/prophet genre....God have mercy on them! What do they do with this teaching of Jesus's? Matt 11:20-24 20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not: 21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. 23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee. Just what would they say?...ahh no bother, some so called Bible scholar has probably already got it figured out and has a www address to bring it to his followers.! CGB also states this.... Can you tell me why a belief system which includes cannibalism is inherently any worse than one which believes women should be burned at the stake, or one that causes such prejudice against a group like the Jews that they end up being baked in ovens? Doesn't each one result in the violent death of a human being? She ignorantly believes that these atrocities are within the belief system of Christianity... OR... she is just trying to stir up more discourse! She just doesn't get it Bob, she just doesn't get it. She is without a clue, totally clueless, but not without a prayer, no not prayerless. Bob let us all hold her up in prayer tonight. I put her at the feet of Jesus, that He may open her eyes and reveal Himself to her in total as He is, and not just as she thinks He is! I ask all to join me in that prayer. For God to bring her to her knees and to cause her to know Him and love and serve Him according to His word and not a www site. Let her be filled with the grace and love and knowledge of God. For her to be still and know that He is God! John 15:4-8 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. Have a good evening Bob Shalom...><>

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (14670)	4/28/1998 12:07:00 AM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 39621

Bob, it is obvious that someone has terrified you about homosexuals. Unfortunately, whoever did so was less than honest with you. Have you ever known a homosexual, or even talked to one? There seems to be a lot you do not understand about them. There are several very recent studies about homosexuals and the genetic underpinnings of this trait. As Mark also said, homosexuals almost always know from the time they can remember that they are "different". The last news report I read, which was a couple of weeks ago, indicated that the actual gene or genes where the determination for homosexuality reside is about to be determined. And so far there are strong indications that it is a trait inherited from your mother only, not your father. Much of what we are is innate rather than learned behavior. Certainly babies learn to walk and talk, but much of personality and basic temperment are genetic. Tell me, did you have to LEARN to be heterosexual, or did it just seem natural to you? That is exactly the way homosexuals feel growing up, except they realize they are attracted to the same sex, while most people are attracted to the opposite sex. Homosexuals do not want to recruit children. Most of them had very painful childhoods. This is not a fate one would choose, for oneself or for others. And as Mark also said, child molesters and homosexuals are two totally different groups of people, and most child molesters are heterosexual.

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (14670)	4/28/1998 8:13:00 PM
From: robnhood	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

<<<This is such a cop out on your part. Most everything we know is learned behavior. We cannot walk or talk when born. We have to learn it. We learn how to communicate, associate, interact with others, go to the bathroom in a commode instead of our pants. We learn everything we know but you want to say this one thing is genetic, not learned to avoid the guilt associated with giving in to the sin. It's hog wash. It's learned and I've said before the homosexual and lesbian community want to recruit our children into their "lifestyle" of perverse sin. It's a fact. They want to teach others to sin like they do. Wake up america, not you though. You seem to be totally immersed in the conspiracy to promote this sin, either willingly with full knowledge of what you are doing or out of ignorance. If out of ignorance then maybe the fire will not be quite so hot, I don't know. It's a small hope for you to have, you should consider accepting Jesus instead as your Lord and Savior and escape the coming punishment of the Godless world.>>> Bob,Bob,, Oh My God , get a grip, WOW, Whew , I just had to say something when I read that.. If we learn everything from someone else, who was the original teacher? More,,, Do you honestly think that someone, or something that was capable of creating this unimanigable universe is concerned at all with any individual human's comings and goings... That, IMHO, is the height of egotism.... russell And last but not least, I think this may be the funniest thread of all, although I've only read a few posts...

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (14670)	4/28/1998 8:22:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

It's hog wash GEEEEEZ Bob your stealing my words now .................... Alan

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (14670)	4/28/1998 9:49:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

If you will just accept that all forms of Wiccan and the more advanced stages which are behind the door of the "ancient mystery" are ALL based on homosexual activity--that all of the pagan sex orgies were based on sex with anythinbg and everything including animals, then maybe you will stop arguing with these people. Bob, it is their religion. The more it is argued here, the more I get a strange feeling this thread is as much a pariah to God as it is to many of us. You fight against flesh and blood, and that of those committed to unclean activities and the preservation of them. You should be fighting this fight not in words, but in prayer to deliver the captives. Arguing isn't going to work. ANy woman or man with small children who protects the rights of teachers to bring their same sex affairs to class to show off to the little kids is NOT playing with a full deck. I am disgusted at the thought of teachers bringing their opposite sex lovers to class. This is all insane thinking to begin with. That people have come to such a condition to bring small children in on their sins of any kind is unspeakable. Yet this is their playing ground--the schools full of small children. Aren't there scriptures that forbid entering into these discussions, or am I wrong? Wouldn't it be more fruitful to respond to actual school situations where this is actually happening, or definitely on the schedule of planned "show and tell" rather than arguing the principle with those who have scales on their eyes and their ears are plugged? That is 3/4 of this thread now. If we were spending this much time crying out to God in mighty shouts of prayer to bring down His Judgment and bring an end to it, it might be a lot more successful. The devil has never repented and he never will. What makes you think it will happen here? Deliverance, not arguments. Arguments are just carrying all believers here further and further into the mire, I believe. If I'm wrong, I trust God to correct me. I stand as one of the most closed minded fanatics of history, I would hope, even though that is pretty egotistical. But I would still hope I fit in that category. If we do, we are in perfect and wonderful company. Praise God! e and