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To: Trader Dave who wrote (1922)	4/28/1998 1:31:00 PM
From: Melissa McAuliffe	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 3033

<< Claims win rate of greater than 50% against Seibel in SFA.>>Don't you think it destroys someone's credibility when they stand up and say stuff like this? I wish someone would ask them to name these wins. TD, I can appreciate your justifying it by saying maybe they are counting sales to vntv's installed base but he knows these don't count. When you say you won 50% of the time, one assumes the other vendor actually competed. And who ever heard of tracking number of units won to determine a win ratio. How about the age old way of taking the number of head to head competitions and using that. If Tom Siebel said something like this(assuming the circumstances were the same) no one would let the statement slide. Also, why is Luongo spending his time at the H&Q conference discussing what sebl is going to do with the scop product line. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's false. I'd prefer to hear sebl's plans from sebl rather than from vntv. Melissa