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To: Adam Nash who wrote (12490)5/1/1998 8:48:00 PM
From: Scott Crumley  Respond to of 213177
 
Adam,

By virtue of your recent position with Apple, I stand humbly corrected on the points of contention.

Thanks for the clarifications.

Regards,

Scott



To: Adam Nash who wrote (12490)5/1/1998 9:30:00 PM
From: Scott Crumley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213177
 
Adam,

I just wanted to mention that I in no way was attempting to take away from the talented people at Apple, who in the final analysis are the core of the company (no pun intended). I am a user and an investor, and therefore rarely get to know the names of the individuals that put their blood and guts into these wonderful products. I can only hope that under Jobs' watch, such people are treated with the praise and respect that they deserve. I hope that such was your experience.

Unfortunately, the leaders often get more credit than they deserve. It's the way of the World. A good leader, in my opinion, will do what he can to compensate for that inequity.

As you may have guessed, I bleed 6 colors and have done so since 84'. I realize that you must dance around the disclosure agreements, but be that as it may, I'm glad you are posting to this thread in whatever capacity you feel is appropriate.

Good luck on your new venture,

Scott



To: Adam Nash who wrote (12490)5/2/1998 9:20:00 AM
From: David Semoreson  Respond to of 213177
 
>As a recent Apple Alumni (I just left the WebObjects group in Feb. to
>try my hand at the Valley Startup thing), I have to be careful what I
>say in regards to these issues. However, I will try to report
>what I know that is non-confidential.

Adam .... thanks for all the insight. Very delicately handled but insightful.

In your opinion, is the brain drain a real problem for Apple or just par for the Valley? Have all the best brains departed for the "startup thing" ?

>IMHO, Apple is creating great stuff right now, (and not just the
>stuff already out there)

Very exciting times. Are you referring to software or hardware or both or ???

Thanks again for sharing with us,
** David



To: Adam Nash who wrote (12490)5/2/1998 11:54:00 AM
From: Alomex  Respond to of 213177
 

Once again, though, I give more credit to the designers, not the people who say OK or No way.

This is an statement I would generally agree with, but not in this case. From the outside, it seems that Apple has had traditionally many cool projects on the pipeline, and it has been the managers who let those projects get out of control (eg Copland).

Once a company has a competent set of designers and programmers (and Apple has more than it's fair share of those), I'd say the success of failure of a software project is entirely the managers responsibility.

I've seen excellent designs fail because managers could never get to freeze the functionality and relatively crappy products make it because they were shipped timely into the upgrade cycle. (Of course, no matter how good the management, only great design & development produces great products).