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To: mark silvers who wrote (14961)	5/2/1998 3:10:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 39621

I am passing through, and don't care to get bogged down (ha-ha, that's pretty funny if you're a pagan, that is) in any more non-Christian debates, OR Christian debates. But I noticed with curiousity that to all who voice any kind of spiritual quest or emptiness on Feelings, such people are diverted to rather in-depth Wiccan websites, which provide nurishment and instruction for those seeking whatever those are seeking. With her permission, I could find two of them, not the rather watered down let's love nature without dragging God into nature of the pagan CHaplains manual shown here. But the actual Wiccan recruitment website. You may find parallels there to U.U. Now, if you do, that is very interesting from an intellectual standpoint, if nothing else.

To: mark silvers who wrote (14961)	5/3/1998 3:57:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

Mark, I am not sure what I am, really. I am really fascinated with Baha'i, because the truth in all the major religions is honored: fp-www.wwnet.net Technically I am a Methodist, in the sense of where I was baptized when I was a child. But as an adult I have become very alarmed at all the damage some religious people do when they fight with each other, and as I became more aware of all the women who were burned in Europe during the Middle Ages as the Christians came in and swept over formerly very peaceful agrarian pagans, I found that very disturbing. I also find the new revelations coming out about Christian complicity with the Nazis in Germany very upsetting. I am not sure if you know that the Pope apologized for the Church's role in all of this, including creating a climate where there was a lot of prejudice against the Jews. I don't know if you looked at the url about the early Christian women in the post I wrote to Shalom today. If not, here it is again: pbs.org Clearly, as more ancient texts become available through archaeology, and modern theologians piece everything together, a theory I have always had that Jesus' message has been perverted over time becomes more credible. I am sorry, but I am unfamiliar with Unitarian Universalism. I do believe that every religion makes perfect sense in the time that it operated, but that as time passes, the fables need to be seen that way, as the teaching of universal truths, and not literal reality. I think the literalists have pretty much wrecked havoc with Christianity, and that Jesus would be shocked to see the narrowness and meanspiritedness of some of his followers. And right now, I am really fascinated with the Shroud of Turin.