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To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:27:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Private message #1 from the SI alias "D. Eigles Systems Ltd.

This is the proof of your professionalism, virtue and responsibility, consistently reflected
in your expressed ideas. It is time for you to join the numerous people who already
know it :

www3.techstocks.com
www3.techstocks.com
www3.techstocks.com
www3.techstocks.com

Cheers !



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:29:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My response to message #1

You're right, I haven't seen any product so far... getting a little miffed @ DVNTF....



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:32:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My second response to #1

Dan, sorry for posting your private messages in the past.
If you would like to talk here is my personal email address: justinfranks@hotmail.com
I want the entire truth of the whole story. Sounds like you may have some missing
pieces.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:37:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Private message #2 from the SI alias "D. Eigles Systems Ltd.

Meanwhile, we can use the private messages channel of SI.

It is time that you go out and apologize for the mud you sprinkled over us. It is time
you go out and express regret for your attempts to give legitimacy to fraudulent actions.
It is time you go out and ask for mercy from these you treated in a rude way. It is time
you go out, list the mistakes you made and bag for understanding from the innocents
who listened to you. It is time you go out make clear your real name and give-up
cheating and fooling around with numerous false identities.

If you decide to ignore the above advice - as you did in the past - then the time will
teach you a harsh lessons. Right now you are personally and professionally
compromised. Perhaps the majority do not trust you, do not believe you are sincere,
do not think you are decent. It will go worse and worse while more and more facts will
show up.

While no decent person accepts, nastiness, deception or crime supporters - people
understand that mistake is human; once a man expresses regret for the mistakes he
committed, there is a chance he is forgiven.

Cheers !



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:39:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Private message #3 from the SI alias "D. Eigles Systems Ltd.

For a change, you are correct and we have pieces (the most important ones) that are
known in relatively restricted circles and there they will remain for now. But here is
something for you:

Almost twenty people in Israel were involved in the activity of creating our proprietary
technology. Does it look to you as writing a small piece of code ?

Read at www.fbi.gov about the FBI policy and activity, including the international
activities and the worldwide Legal Attache program (also deployed in Tel-Aviv),
intended to fight computer crime and computer related or facilitated crime.

Log to www.gocsi.com and read about computer security and crime.

Read Article 1030 of the Federal Law.

The white paper (draft) dated Febryary 98 and recently launched on the new
www.dvnet.com is classified on the web as containing confidential information. Good
Lord, thanks it is not the file of the private keys used by the security applications
servers.

Where in the new www.dvnet.com can one see the name of Eleesha Shvartz,
Secretary of the Corporation ?

Did Dr. El-Gamal participate at the recent shareholders meeting ? What did he say
there ?

Anything you have to tell us ?



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:42:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My response to message #2 & #3

Response 1:
Thanks, very interesting. I'll look into it this weekend. I appreciate your information.
Justin.

P.S. Justin Franks is my real name. I don't use aliases. (except for Ranks)

Response 2:
Yes, it's time.

I'd also like to get to the bottom of things. I just need to find out exactly what issues
are relevant.
I don't like the private message channel of SI because they log things.

"Did Dr. El-Gamal participate at the recent shareholders meeting ? What did he say
there ?"
Don't know. Good point. Need to find out.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:44:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Private message #4 from good ole Danny.

You say your real name is Justin Franks and that excepting Justin Ranks you do not
use aliases. Then how would you explain the JF alias in one of your messages on the
RB talk board ? How would you explain the absolute contents identity of Shaq report
regarding the recent shareholders meeting on the RB talk board with your report on SI
on the same issue ?

Cheers !



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:45:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My response to Danny #4

Yes, JF was me, but those are the initials to my real name. Shaq was not me. B-Man
sent me some notes on the shareholders mtg. I forwarded those notes to some of my
friends BEFORE I posted them on SI, so Shaq could have been anyone.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:48:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My second response to danny #4

I told you my real name, in fact, you can call me at HP Santa Clara CA (xxx)
xxx-xxxx (I blocked out the actual number due to the public posting). So what is your real name? I want to know that we can trust eachother
before I can really listen and believe what you have to say.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:50:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Privatre message danny #5

The automatic answering machine behind the phone # you indicated brought up a male
voice saying "....Justin Franks....". So it might be that there is a Justin Franks and you
have something to do with that person. Could you say if Mr. Moshe Horev - formerly
Managing Director of HP Israel and by now Managing Director of Oracle Israel -
knows you or any person you work with ?

D. Eigeles Systems Ltd. is the real name of a private company owned by Minerva
Eigeles and Dan Eigeles and managed by Dan Eigeles. The registration number of the
company is 512373846. If you feel you need it, you probably can ask from the Israeli
Embassy for an abstract on this company.

You can expect to hear from us what it allowed in view of the lawsuit, case no
3/2765/97 (about which you already know).



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:53:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My response to danny #5

I know D. Eigeles Systems Ltd. is the real name of the company. I want to know what
your real name is? I want to know who you are and if you're associated with D.
Eigeles Systems Ltd.

Why don't you call the Santa Clara site message system on Monday (xxx-xxx-xxxx,
my extension is xxxxx) so we can talk.

I don't understand. Perhaps you told me the wrong country. I've never herd of Mr.
Moshe Horev. In fact, HP does not have a facility in Israel. However, I'll look for his
name in the database on Monday. If he was an HP managing director at any time in
any location they will have records. HP archives EVERYTHING, including phone
calls. I know people who have access to such records, so I can find out very quick.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:55:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Private message danny #6

Please reed :

hp.com

Pay special attention to the following paragraphs taken pointed by above URL :

"
We have trust and respect for individuals. We approach each situation with the belief
that people want to do a good job and will do so, given the proper tools and support.
We attract highly capable, diverse, innovative people and recognize their efforts and
contributions to the company. HP people contribute enthusiastically and share in the
success that they make possible.

We conduct our business with uncompromising integrity. We expect HP people to be
open and honest in their dealings to earn the trust and loyalty of others. People at every
level are expected to adhere to the highest standards of business ethics and must
understand that anything less is unacceptable. As a practical matter, ethical conduct
cannot be assured by written HP policies and codes; it must be an integral part of the
organization, a deeply ingrained tradition that is passed from one generation of
employees to another.
"
Now please see your message on SI:

www3.techstocks.com

Would you deny that your message (....4259278) is a breach of HP values ? What do
you intend to do and when about it ?



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 8:57:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My reply to danny #6

That was written for HP employees. I'm an independent contractor. I do not represent
HP in any way. However, my work ethics have always followed what you quoted from
HP:

"
We have trust and respect for individuals. We approach each situation with the belief
that
people want to do a good job and will do so, given the proper tools and support. We
attract
highly capable, diverse, innovative people and recognize their efforts and contributions
to the
company. HP people contribute enthusiastically and share in the success that they
make
possible.

We conduct our business with uncompromising integrity. We expect HP people to be
open and
honest in their dealings to earn the trust and loyalty of others. People at every level are
expected
to adhere to the highest standards of business ethics and must understand that anything
less is
unacceptable. As a practical matter, ethical conduct cannot be assured by written HP
policies
and codes; it must be an integral part of the organization, a deeply ingrained tradition
that is
passed from one generation of employees to another.
"
The above quote should be applied in any business.

Note, my reply to White Shoes
www3.techstocks.com was meant to be
facetious and refer to MSFT's past.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 9:01:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Private message danny #7 & #8

#7:
Hard to believe that HP considers supporting felony and savage rude attacks on others
to be ethical.

#8:
The question was if Mr. Moshe Horev knows you or someone who knows you, not if
you know Mr. Horev.

(danny sounds defensive because I told him that I could look up Mr. Moshe Horev records at HP. By the way, I tried to look him up but could not find him. I think danny was just trying to get names from me that he could use)



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 9:06:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My response to #7 & #8

Hard to believe you are anyone important OR that what you have to say is signifigant
for the following reason:

You are avoiding my questions/issues. Why?



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 9:09:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
Danny #9 & #10

#9
Who of the following does NOT know you :
1 . Patrice Rapalus
2 . John Vacca
3 . Charles L. Owens
4 . Bill Gates
5 . Philip Deck
Would you say that these who do not know you are not important ?

Cheers !

#10
A (self) compromised person has to go a long-long way of rehabilitation as a
precondition for being trusted.

Good luck !

(sounds like danny is the only one we can't trust. I've been honest. He's still being elusive. Why?)



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 9:11:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Respond to of 1242
 
My response to #9 & #10

#9
I will not find your "friend" in our database because he never existed or worked for
HP. Give it up.
Your attempt to make a point was very feeble. You are doing is arguing over trivial
matters. Why? What are you trying to prove? Obviously not much.....

The structure of your sentences tells me that you are a foreigner (i.e. not born and
raised in America). So what country do you live in? Israel?

#10
Why are you arguing with me when you should be arguing about DVNTF's issues?
I don't know why you're so disgruntled. I don't know why you're so bent on trying to
make me & DVNTF look bad. It's not working. I don't appreciate disgruntled
nobodies wasting my time. Go cry to someone else. Please stop wasting my time.
Thank you.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 9:14:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1242
 
danny #11 & #12

#11
The search engine of the excellent website of HP was unable to locate anything about
'xx' or 'xx' or 'xx'. Following your line of thought, HP does
not know your group, hence HP like all other almost unanimous majority of physical or
juridical persons who do not know your group, does not exists or is not important.

Cheer up and don't worry, the Universe will overcome this terrible cultural and
professional state of ignorance and will survive while HP will continue to do fine
business.

"Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity" (The Holy Bible,
Ecclesiastes, Chapter 1, Verse 2).

(hey White Shoes, didn't you quote me something from this scripture earlier?)

#12
Sir, the tears seem to be yours.



To: Justin Franks who wrote (549)5/4/1998 9:32:00 PM
From: Justin Franks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1242
 
My response to #11 & #12 ( I'm late for class, gotta hurry..)

Nothing... don't need to don't want to. Danny avoided all of my questions, never called me, never gave his email address. I tried to be nice to him but he kept attacking me. Don't know why he made up the HP Israel story. The only reason he is posting private messages is because he is trying to "play" us. Has anyone checked out those case #'s he gave? I don't think so. It's obvious he has no idea what's going on. He just wants to attack me. Why? Everything he has said has no support or backing. Notice he was very quiet while DVNTF was going down. But when it started climbing again he started posting more messages. I think it's White Shoes. Similar tone, similar scriptures. Similar cookie? Perhaps, my buddy is looking into it for me. He's an admin at SI. I'll find out soon enough cuz he's gonna compare all cookies on this thread, private and public. Asta lasangna baby... danny boy is busted!!