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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (15381)	5/8/1998 3:34:00 PM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile, <<. Do this sound like gratitude and humility to you? Don't you think the Markoffs could show a little respect for the millions of Christians who give their their free will offerings to spread the Gospels among the Jews and other nonbelievers?.>> Emile, dont you reealize that you are guilty of the very words you charge the Markhoffs with? You show no respect to any religion(even christian sects that you dont agree with)sects, that I am sure wold be willing to give their free will offerings to spread the Gospel. Emile, you are doing yourself harm. You can sit here and claim to have the right to determine who and what actions will bring down gods curse upon them.(you dont have that right or knowledge) You can call people names, and think you are doing Gods work. The unfortunate truth is that in my opinion you do just the opposite, and are letting your hatred work against yourself and your goals. I have already tried to explain to you that your words do more to push people away from christianity than anything else on this thread. You cant bring people to Jesus by telling them how evil they are, and pontificating as if you are the expert. Weather you realize it or not, your hate is palpable. You can claim not to hate, but your words say otherwise. You can never do Gods work through hatred. If you would like, I would be happy to discus this with you, and hopefully we can come to a place were we can love and respect each other. mark

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (15381)	5/8/1998 4:42:00 PM
From: DLL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Why do not speak ill of a brother in Yeshua? I am so concerned for you. Why do you not think I am Christian, or the Markoffs? Does the term Messianic bother you so much? You happen to be a Messianic Gentile, just as I am, if you believe in the Messiah. By this you will know that you are his, that you have love on for another. This is an important part of our witness to unbelievers. I encourage you to repent so that you may not cause another to stumble. In Yeshua's Love - DLL

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (15381)	5/8/1998 6:23:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

<<It is too bad that the Markoffs and other messianic Jews speak so disparagingly about this This New and Living Way and at the same time try to exalt the dead old coveanant. When the heart is enveloped with the darkness of the "Jewish vail", the mind and emotions are at the mercy of demons.>> The New and Living Way you quote is the inclusion of Gentiles into the worship of the Messiah. <<It is the Christian Church and Christian people who went out and evangelized the modern Jews like the Markoffs and others. These same Jews repay the Christian Church by constantly blaspheme against it. Do this sound like gratitude and humility to you? Don't you think the Markoffs could show a little respect for the millions of Christians who give their their free will offerings to spread the Gospels among the Jews and other nonbelievers?>> I have never heard so much pride and conceit in all my life. Who were the first Christians Emile? And the Lord had nothing to do with anybody being saved right. You see men as the source of the gospel, I don't think so, like it says the Lord removes the veil as it was Him who removed the veil for me and all people. You might be shocked but the Christians involved in our lives enjoy learning about the roots of their faith and were not so engulfed in the conceit that Paul warns about in Romans 9 that consumes you. Nancy