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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (15395)	5/9/1998 8:01:00 PM
From: Gregory D. John	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

Bob, Hmmm... it occurs to me that, on this subject, there is probably nothing short of agreement that would not illicit a charge of naivete or, worse, conspiracy. Eh, what the hell... Regarding any one of these "super-rich elitist" organizations, is there any one specific concrete event that you can point to that demonstrates their influence? With regards to Revelation, I lean very much towards the idea that the subject matter of that book deals less with our time than with the times (or immediate expected future) of the author. Consider Rev. 13:16-18 regarding the mark of the beast. At the time of the author, was it the case that all, of whatever rank or occupation, were made to use the Imperial stamp for all transactions? Is this an intentional juxtaposition by the author with Deut. 6:8, "You are to tie them as a sign upon your hand..."? Does the Imperial stamp during the 14th year of Domitian's reign, in Greek, using the equivalent numerical values of the letters, add up to 616? Does adding an N = 50, for Nero since Domitian was known as "the bald Nero", bring this total to 666? Are these questions/explanations reasonable? Are they true? I've lifted most of this directly from the footnotes of "The Original New Testament" by Hugh J. Schonfield - the version of the NT which I am currently reading. The Deuteronomy quote is from "The Five Books of Moses" by Everett Fox (a wonderful translation, IMHO). Perhaps they're both secretly published by the Illuminati. :-) Just kidding. Seriously though, Bob, what do you make of these explanations? If they are misleading or incorrect, I would like to know and to know why. Greg

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (15395)	5/10/1998 1:21:00 AM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 39621

Bob, I have really tried to listen to what you're saying with the New World Order stuff, but the only place I even find references to it is within militia movement web pages. Would you entertain for a moment the idea of being deprogrammed? I really think you have bought a bill of goods that is simply not true, and would be very curious to know where you picked up all this stuff. Here is something rational about the New World Order movement: maxwell.syr.edu Are you aware that most New Age people are almost hopelessly self-indulgent, and spend their time sniffing aromatherapy oils and getting tickled with peacock feathers, when they are not chanting in circles worshipping the seasons, or buying even more turquoise jewelry? It is very hard to imagine these people being organized enough to be the leaders of much of anything, with the exception that they take saving the environment very seriously. Most of them don't even eat meat, and are quite harmless, really. They just want to get in touch with their inner beings, and live in harmony with man and nature, not conquer the world. They are not terribly political, and represent a tiny, tiny percentage of Americans.