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Pastimes : The Grafted Tree (Gentile's & Jews learn from each other) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (649)	5/17/1998 8:37:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 702

Can Christ have fellowship with Satan? Can the children of Light have communion with the children of darkness? Can Christ be brother to antichrist? So you do see the Jews as satanic not just the religon. They are children of darkness Emile. In contrast, the Church has spent the last two thousand years exalting Jesus and proclaiming the Torah and the entire Word of God. You do not support any scriptures of a future for Israel, so at best this is hypocritical to say you proclaim the Torah and entire Word of God. No you pick and choose what will prove your point and that makes it Emile's truth. . The spirit of the Torah is Christ and he who rejects Christ rejects the Torah. This statement works both ways. See we know what you say and you can pretend to accept the Torah and accept the entire Word of God but that is not what you have preached. This post is full of prejudice and hatred and that is consistent with your doctrine. That does not come from Torah. You defend the Church when no one has been against it. We may see areas that can improve and share that, but you go off into a tantrum and this exaltation of the Church. Jesus has done it all and will continue to do it all. The Church can make no claims for He is everything. At times you seem to worship the Church. I belong to the Church and love it for I love Him. However I think people are robbed of a closer relationship because of the insistence that the Law is totally dead and like you when a person wants to share a growth they have experienced from that part of the word, get jumped with this phoney defense of the Church. Craig never praised modern Talmudic Judaism only his support of the Torah and that is what you have attacked as you repeatedly do and then say it is beautifull and you proclaim the entire word. 46: For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47: But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? Shouldn't this convict you? If you say the Old Covenant is dead (as you have many times) are you not denying Jesus in those scriptures? "9: But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: You quote this so much that it reveals your need to prove your superior relationship with the Lord. There are hundreds of pages where God calls Israel a Holy Nation and His Chosen according to you this was always really meant for a plural of Nations. No it is still Israel and all who are grafted into that Nation will be under that verse and a part of the Holy Nation when He comes back to reign from Zion I don't understand how you can imply reigning in Zion as being a persons spirit or heart. Zion is a place and if it was in your heart you would have to love Zion and we know you are very far from even liking Zion. As Ruth said; May your God be my God and YOUR PEOPLE BE MY PEOPLE Nancy

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (649)	5/17/1998 10:34:00 AM
From: DLL	Respond to of 702

Emile; There were thousands of Messianic Jews within weeks of Yeshua's death. Virtually the entire church was Jewish from the beginning. As Gentiles, we were evangelized by these Jewish saints. How faithful did the Jews have to be in order for God to keep his promises. If God can turn his back on the Jews, how secure can you be. How good have you been Emile? If you are not good enough do you believe God may turn his back on you? Praise Yeshua, the promises of God are forever. In Yeshua's name and love for you forever, DLL

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (649)	5/17/1998 6:06:00 PM
From: craig shipman	Respond to of 702

"Ask yourself the question: where would you have heard the Gospel had it not been for the holy Christian Church and her doctrines?" Good question, Emile. Here is the answer: I heard the Gospel of Yeshua, not because of, but in spite of, the cacophonous din of "the holy Christian Church and her doctrines". YHWH is well able to call those who would worship Him in spirit and in truth out of Babylon. Praise YHWH!! \o/ Craig p.s.: You sure use the words "antichrist" and "Talmudic" a lot. Why is that?

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (649)	5/17/1998 6:13:00 PM
From: craig shipman	Respond to of 702

"the Church has spent the last two thousand years...proclaiming the Torah..." ROFL Shalom Craig

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (649)	5/17/1998 6:26:00 PM
From: craig shipman	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 702

"For two thousand years Talmudic Judaism has led untold millions of Jewish souls to their eternal destruction by teaching them rejection of Jesus." I prefer not to quote scripture, as it is one of the favorite tools of the deceiver. For you, Emile, I will make an exception. I refer you to James 4:12 Shalom Craig

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (649)	5/17/1998 7:06:00 PM
From: craig shipman	Respond to of 702

"For the last two thousand years modern Judaism has established the dishonorable distinction and tradition of being the champions and first in opposition to Jesus." What is it that you keep referring to as "modern Judaism"? Is it that sect of Judaism that was embodied by Yeshua, His Torah/teachings, the acts of His Torah-observant Jewish disciples, repentant Gentiles and Torah-observant Jews who acknowledged Him as Messiah? If so, count me in!! Shalom Craig