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Technology Stocks : MSFT Internet Explorer vs. NSCP Navigator -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J. P. who wrote (19391)	5/19/1998 9:33:00 AM
From: almaxel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Navigator loads too slow? How many megs of RAM do you have? I got 124 megs and Communicator loads up fast! DOJ asked for a third browser next to IE and Navigator,so DOJ is making suggestions to level the playing field. Ralf

To: J. P. who wrote (19391)	5/19/1998 10:12:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 24154

What's the difference between segregating the browser, and segregating all the other bundled products such as anti-virus, compression, and cd-rom software? Ah, the old "Just like disk defrag" argument, not to be confused with the ever popular "Chrysler car radio" argument. I think most would agree that IE, in size and functionality, is a lot closer to Word than "all the other bundled products". Aside from which, utilities are the kind of thing it makes sense to bundle, from a technical perspective. From a business plan perspective, of course, IE makes perfect sense. Bundling Word doesn't, as Atty. Urowsky said early on. Anyway, J.P., you're the victim of incorrect terminology here. IE isn't bundled, it's integrated. Haven't you been listening to Bill? Of course, it's integrated pretty much the same way Word is, but that's another story. Which leads us to slow-loading Communicator. Near as I can tell, because it's dll-ized, IE gets pinned in virtual address space/swap space first time you use it. Which, if you've installed "Desktop update component" is the first time you hit My Computer, or anything else. Might be a few other hooks to give it priority too, who can say. Of course, Windows 98 is supposed to have the "innovative" fast load disk optimization that Intel did. Maybe that will help Nav. Maybe not. Cheers, Dan.

To: J. P. who wrote (19391)	5/19/1998 5:14:00 PM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 24154

Hi JP, The OEMs could have fought MSFT and sold some other OS...but what consumer OS? For all the naysaying out there, there is no better consumer OS than the windows family. Mac is good for children, but when you learn on a dos machine in college the mac looks like an artiste's computer. Besides, apple slit their own throats in the last war... it's true too that a competitor could replace windows in a day... if they could come up with something a lot better that had a great api set which they released....maybe whatever it is would be so good that releasing the apis wouldn't even be necessary, depending upon what this product were to be.... MSFT should be free to put any and every app into their os, and until there is something better which the OEMs can opt for, or until the desktop computing model is replace by this yet unknown new product (the one which could replace windows overnight), the app vendors and oems can deal with it. The oems can't be hurting that badly to have gone along with this for so long. Ed's right about Intel too.. where's this going to stop when MU and the others sue intel for too many integrated features on the processor? So i say the problem lies with the oems and the lack of something better. Maybe NSCP's Linux shell will be so compelling and easy-to-use that a couple of large OEMs will break ranks. For some government lawyer to be deciding how the computer industry should be run is assinine. Myself, i think the best model would be if the os were modularized, and the user could go to an internet site and download whatever modules they wanted, by whatever vendor. They could specify the same when going to an oem.... where's the modular os though? What kind of industry standards group would it take to get such a thing off the ground? Is the vendor with the fastest, most compatible java engine going to be the one providing the ultimate platform? FWIW Andy