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To: Walt Corey who wrote (43895)5/20/1998 3:08:00 PM
From: Michael Burry  Respond to of 176387
 
Walt,

While I generally agree with your statements, I
don't see how they make my statements wrong.
Options are a decent tool for minimizing turnover, but far from perfect.
This brings up the larger question of loyalty
being sacrificed to the options grail, but in
any case, the big problem with options is that
typically life is smooth as long as the stock price
is going up. There's no free lunch, though -
of course, ask most Silly Valley employees and
they'll disagree.

For Dell, the options have been a good strategy,
as the stock has gone up and up forever.
But IF things don't work out like everyone
on this thread seems to think - IF Dell's product
does squirm its way down into cheap commodity
status, and IF ASP falls off the cliff, then
the options game will become a problem, as the
share dilution and options repricing ticks off
shareholders who start to wonder where their
free lunch went.

The simple short-term solution solution is keep
being successful, and make sure the market has
an ever-increasingly loving view of your stock.
Dell's done a good job so far.

But to me it smells of portfolio insurance,
the Nifty Fifty and all other things too good
to be true.

Good Investing,
Mike



To: Walt Corey who wrote (43895)5/20/1998 3:11:00 PM
From: Paul Merriwether  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
<<
Thats generally wrong. Options are a great way to FORWARD reward employees
for good performance IF they hang around for the options to vest. This is generally
a 3 to 5 year time frame AND the employee HAS to be continually employed for
that period of time. My experience is that now a days it's tough to have employees
stay 5 years so options are a very very inexpensive form of virtual compensation.

>>

While options usually vest over a 5 year period, the employees can
cash out 20% a year. It is true that most don't(because of greed!)
some(like myself) do so every year. Also, with options, most employees
DO stay, as long as the stock keep performing well.
In other words, imho, options are meant to hold on to prized employees
(the "golden handcuff"), and not a way to cheat them with "inexpensive
virtual compensation". No Dell employee in his right mind would leave
a few hundred thou. of vested options on the table and jump board!
I would be surprised if some Dell employees don't cash out and diversify at these nose bleed levels!



To: Walt Corey who wrote (43895)5/20/1998 5:34:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit  Respond to of 176387
 
Walt, you are confusing vesting with the fact that options are not considered an expense item, and thus their cost is not included in earnings. Two separate issues IMO.

TTFN,
CTC