SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : MSFT Internet Explorer vs. NSCP Navigator -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Charles Hughes who wrote (19564)5/21/1998 2:42:00 AM
From: Pink Minion  Respond to of 24154
 
B. Automobile technology. Essentially the same as that of 50 years ago,

Henry Ford had a running prototype engine that ran on cheap, plentiful, pollutent-free hemp oil in the 30's, but Rockafellor "talked" him into killing it. Then the plant became illegal in 1937.

Mr. B



To: Charles Hughes who wrote (19564)5/21/1998 3:45:00 AM
From: space cadet  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 24154
 
Excellent post, even if I disagree in some places. Let me explain:

>IE plus Windows isn't any better than Netscape plus Windows. And if they allow
that change, for both technical and business reasons, progress in the technology of
the web itself will crawl to a halt. Besides wiping out all the other web software
companies. After that, There won't be much reason to improve windows either.

>So far from trying to keep Windows from being better, they are trying to keep
Microsoft from turning the Web into yet another dead graveyard of ideas.

Falacious argument. The web is much much bigger than msft or any other single or even various companies. And msft has everything to gain and not much to lose by expanding the web. It is only the government and the forces of fascism (you know, the internet decency people, the drug warriors, the various nazi's in our government (like Reno, the present Czar of the drug war, the IRS, etc)) that would stand to lose by the web. Of course, the storeowners and other intermediaries also stand to lose, but this description is totally inappropriate to msft. They are not intermediaries in that way and have already hugely gained from the web's expansion. The entire software-hardware-networking industries have almost uniformly entirely gained except maybe for one or two companies like novell that tried to corner the market and force everyone to use their system. The charge that msft wants to destroy the web is manifestly absurd.

>One engineering or scientific field after another over the last century has attracted
the attention of business. This is what often happens:

Great point and I totally agree. However, if you choose to really delve into your examples, with which I am in agreement on, then you find, as someone previously pointed out with respect to the car industry and Rockefellar (I did not know that particular story) that the problem in virtually all cases is the government. We should all oppose government mandated monopolies such as AT&T received for so many years. That is evil, ruinous, perverted and must be stopped. Msft received no such government mandated monopoly. Msft's monopoly is as guaranteed as TV guides: in both cases companies can and have competed and the second they stop appealing to the public they will be replaced.

In all the cases you cite, it was the brutish fascist hand of government and its manifold regulations and bureaucrats that killed the field by among other methods so raising the cost of entering the field as to stifle all newcomers. That is why there aren't any new US car companies, for example.

The one case you cite that does not involve government suppression is IBM. I'll admit I don't know the details of this case till I followed the pc market in the early '80's. From that time forward I can vouch that the government played no constructive role in the pc market. I suspect you are also wrong about the early history of IBM, though I really don't know the facts.

Your wild talk of msft owning the internet really needs to be toned down- you are too smart for that sort of thing. Incidentally, you mentioned about being sprayed with insecticide on flights. Could you explain about this?



To: Charles Hughes who wrote (19564)5/21/1998 9:29:00 AM
From: Reginald Middleton  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
<IE plus Windows isn't any better than Netscape plus Windows>

This is absolutely untrue. Anybody who has used IE 4.0 knows it has a much richer feature set, supports a much more robust veriosn of DHTML (such as databinding) and is MUCH more flexible. It is also much more tightly integrated into the OS and provides much more support for the world's most ubiquitous productivity apps, such as acting as an efficient container.

<...progress in the technology of the web itself will crawl to a halt.>

If so, how did MSFT's technology pull so far ahead of NSCP's in such as short period of time. Reference what I stated in the previous paragraph. I repeat, from a technology and capabilities perspective, NAV 4.0 does not come close to IE 4.0, hence your assertions seem to be invalid.