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To: Ludo who wrote (687)	5/21/1998 1:03:00 PM
From: Gorak Shep	Respond to of 3216

Cable modems are typically 10 megabits/sec shared within your neighborhood. It's only available where cable systems have been upgraded to the hybrid fibre/coax. There are several forms of ADSL which run at different speeds. 8 megabits/sec is the highest speed you will generally see from ADSL and you get all of it to your ADSL provider, typically a phone company but possibly an ISP. But this does not usually lead you directly to a backbone but rather to the provider's capacity to the backbone. This is the point where sharing begins via ADSL that can also limit available bandwidth. Moreover, high speed ADSL requires some hardware to split the data stream from the voice stream that lets you make phone calls on the same wire at the same time as you hold your data connection. To avoid this cost, their is a version called ADSL-Lite which is "splitterless" ie doesn't require the hardware to split voice and data even though these two streams still share the same wire. There is a cost however and it is that the ADSL data stream is more in the 2 megabits/sec range. ADSL-Lite seems to be gaining momentum. The biggest problem I see with ADSL in the short run is that it is mostly the phone companies that will deploy it. And the phone companies don't know how to deploy competitive technology at competitive prices. So expect to get jerked around on this for quite awhile. The cable companies have pretty uniformly adopted pricing in the $35-$50 per month range for unlimited always on access.

To: Ludo who wrote (687)	5/21/1998 1:07:00 PM
From: Len	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3216

Well, it was my understanding that cable transfers at up to 10mbps, while ADSL is up to 7 mbps, so if I'm mistaken please inform me. I also understood that while uploads are not so speed critical, the cable has the same speed both ways, while ADSL is only that fast in the download path. Of course, it's first come, first serve for me. Whoever shows up first can have my first born if they'll hook me up one day quicker.<g>

To: Ludo who wrote (687)	5/22/1998 9:17:00 PM
From: Clarence Dodge	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3216

Ludo My cable TV connection will fail quite frequently for anywhere from 5 min to hours. It happened just last nite. Obviously, theres nothing to be done on my part. Just passively wait for my beloved cable co to put down their beers and figure out what happened. They even have a daily updated phone recording telling customers where the current problem areas are that they know about. Judging from these reliable blackouts and the quality of the independent contractors that they send out to their customers homes I can only kringe in disbelief that people would put their internet connection in the hands of these people. I can count the number of times my phone line has gone dead during my lifetime on one hand and all I have to do is hangup and redial to be reconnected in a minute. Do you find this to be the case in your area or is there some kind of magic that would keep a data channel open when all the TV channels go down? Clarence