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To: J.B.C. who wrote (10815)	5/22/1998 11:37:00 AM
From: Sawtooth	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

<<If A GOP Pres had overridden the State Department recommendation, you're damn right it would have been the news, bigger than it is now.>> J.B.C.: Perhaps; but it's speculation, anyway. My point is that, ethical and political issues aside, what makes the story "interesting" to people on Main Street USA is not that Pres. Clinton signed the waiver against the advice of the State Dept., but that he signed the waiver for a company whose CEO was the largest individual donor to the DNC.

To: J.B.C. who wrote (10815)	5/22/1998 3:26:00 PM
From: Reagan DuBose	Respond to of 152472

*Off topic * J.B.C. wrote: "If A GOP Pres had overridden the State Department recommendation, you're damn right it would have been the news, bigger than it is now." J.B.C. : State Department recommends one thing; Commerce Department recommends another. Whichever side the President supports, someone will be happy, someone else unhappy. I am no Clinton lover, but the simple fact that he went against the recommendation of one department to accept the recommendation of another department is hardly proof of corruption. At some point in time the approval channel for export of dual-use (civil & military) technology needs to be 'normalized', that is to say, put into the Commerce Department channel, subject to appropriate controls. Whether or not this is the right time to 'normalize' satellite launch services is a judgment call. You can find honorable (and dishonorable) people on both sides of the issue. With respect to guidance, who supplies the guidance system that controls the boost vehicle and upper stage(s)? Makes sense to me that it would be the Chinese, but I would like to hear from someone who knows for sure. I would think that the launch service provider (Chinese or other) is responsible for placing the satellite payload at a specified altitude and velocity vector, within a specified tolerance. Beyond that point, the satellite payload contactor becomes responsible, using the satellite payload's own guidance and propulsion to achieve final orbit and precision placement. If the Chinese (or other providers) have no access to the satellite payload itself, I don't see how our 'security' is compromised by their providing launch services. Of course, my opinion is based upon incomplete data, and I may have to change my mind if factual data surfaces which supports a contrary view. Reagan

To: J.B.C. who wrote (10815)	5/22/1998 4:10:00 PM
From: brian h	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

JBC and all who are interested, OT*************** Excerpts from ABC news about LOR, abcnews.com Here it goes, Schwartz, a lifelong Democrat and early supporter of Clinton, was at the White House just two weeks before the decision to attend a state dinner Feb. 5 for British Prime Minister Tony Blair. A week later, the documents show, a top executive from his company wrote the White House pleading for the waiver. If a decision is not forthcoming in the next day or so we stand to lose the contract,? Thomas Ross, LoralÝs vice president for governmental affairs, wrote on Feb. 13. A Tangled Web Bernard Schwartz had intended to raise this issue with you at the Blair dinner, but missed you in the crowd,? the letter added. The same day, White House counsel Charles F.C. Ruff wrote a memo suggesting Justice Department concerns could not be too serious because there had not been any concerns raised by officials above the criminal division. The department had every opportunity to weigh in against the waiver at the highest levels and elected not to do so,? Ruff wrote. Ruff suggested the White House could weigh the concerns on their own and and that Berger could weigh the balancing of our national security and criminal justice interests.? White House Denies Connection At the time of the waiver, the Justice Department was investigating whether Loral had improperly assisted the Chinese in 1996 by advising them after one of the rockets carrying a satellite exploded. Loral has acknowledged it had not told the State Department before it provided the help, but it denies the assistance did anything to help the Chinese with their military capabilities. Both the White House and Schwartz have denied any connection between his donations and this yearÝs waiver, which was for a different satellite. Advisers OKÝd Project And the memos reviewed by AP show clearly that national security advisers had concluded that LoralÝs satellite project will not contribute to Chinese military capabilities.? Brian H.