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Pastimes : Ask God -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (16502)	5/26/1998 2:44:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 39621

Ann, the Burning Times video is fairly difficult to order. I used to have a source on the net for it, but couldn't find it when I wrote that post to you. It is available at my library, but I would like to have a copy of my own. I suspect your local video store could also order it for you. I have shared this url from the PBS Frontline series on Jesus at Ask God before, but don't know if you saw it yet. Feminist divinity professors have uncovered evidence from recent discoveries in the archaeological record, and recently uncovered texts (as I understand it), that Jesus himself was absolutely a feminist, and that there was a DELIBERATE effort to hide the good works that the strong women he surrounded himself with did on behalf of getting Christianity started as a religion. This url is fairly long, but well worth reading in its entirety, in my opinion: pbs.org Unfortunately, women are still beaten or otherwise abused in 50% of American marriages. Movements like the Promise Keepers seem like they are religious, but actually have the agenda of keeping women subservient to men. The way women have been treated under Christianity--not at the intent of Jesus, but because over time the truths about how radical, feminist, and socially active he was have been obscured--is nothing short of, um, sinful!!! Wife beating exists in all male-dominated religions, and in all social classes, although I understand that disadvantaged men who feel powerless may abuse their wives in slightly greater numbers. It is learned behavior. Girls who have grown up in households where this is acceptable behavior have a tolerance for it in their own marriages--it seems almost normal. I was surprised to read this weekend in the Irish Times that it is still very prevalent there. Twenty-five percent of women in pre-marital counseling classes with their perspective mates reported abusive incidents. Of course, this is a staunchly Catholic society, although it is rapidly becoming more open and much healthier as religious influences wane with all the revelations about priests molesting children. I remind my one teenaged daughter at least once a month that when she starts dating, if a boy does anything threatening at all, she needs to totally drop the relationship immediately, and tell us about it so that we can make sure she stays safe. This is an interesting page of reprehensible Bible verses, if you haven't already read some of them: infidels.org