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To: cheryl williamson who wrote (9966)	5/28/1998 9:08:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

Besides, your quoted source doesn't state that the Java vm in question is compatible with SUNW standards, only that it is more compatible with other applets, whose applets those are, we don't know. Okay. The bottom line on this whole thing is that Sun is being pretty obsessively protective of Java. Yet at the same time these hypocrites like McNealy applaud the DOJ, who: 1) Asked Microsoft to de-construct it's Win98 OS by completely hiding all traces of internet connectivity in the OS from the consumer. 2) And/or asked MSFT to bake into the Win98 CD a copy of a rival's html viewing code. 3) And/or asked MSFT to allow PC OEMs 100% freedom to change the "first boot" screen, even though PC OEMs already have freedom to do whatever they want with over 80% of the screen on "first boot". And they do use that freedom to paint the OEM's logo hugely on the screen, and have links to OEM software and other 3rd party software. So you see, this is all just a public relations battle. Sun is no more righteous than MSFT with respect to business and competitive practices. All the players have an agenda. That's their job, to promote their vision of the future, as embodied in their products. The problem here is that Sun/Netscape/Oracle have run to Daddy crying no fair.

To: cheryl williamson who wrote (9966)	6/4/1998 12:56:00 AM
From: mozek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 64865

I hate to disappoint you, but it doesn't matter which "third party" it was who designed the compatibility tests, if they aren't SUNW's tests, they don't count. Cheryl, A little secret... the meticulous attention to compatibility with customers' applications is exactly what made Microsoft as successful as it is today. The "compatibility tests" you refer to that you consider unimportant were Java applets developed by customers, many of them Sun's, who bought the Java hype. Unfortunately, Sun's tests aren't so representative of actual programs as they would have people believe. BTW, all applets tested conformed to the 100% Pure Java guidelines. fyi: zdnet.com You can also find out exactly what applets were tested. It's also interesting to note the incredible degree of Java incompatibility among platforms. Thanks, Mike