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To: jbe who wrote (22432)	5/28/1998 9:55:00 PM
From: Lady Lurksalot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

jbe, Thank you! Thank you! Thank you, for bringing one of my biggest peeves to the forefront! I cannot stand loud noises, particularly the earsplitting stuff that some would call music but which assaults our sensibilities in many clubs. I could not even begin to consider employment in such a place! I think we have raised at least three generations of deaf people. In time, I am sure we will discover that this prolonged exposure to this abomination causes brain damage. Hmmm, now that I think about it, I may just be on to something there. Holly

To: jbe who wrote (22432)	5/28/1998 10:31:00 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

Jbe, hi!!! I briefly read your earlier posts, and wanted to comment, but they were a little too intellectual for me to deal with until I feel better. Thanks for all your thoughts and feelings, however!!! I should have qualified my statement about people who work in bars. I NEVER put much store in anecdotal evidence, and see no reason to start now. It is exceedingly simple to destroy very thoughtful, well-researched and accurate posts with one anecdote. Depending on the integrity of the poster, the anecdotal evidence may not even always be accurate (although certainly I believe what you have said). Obviously, there are many students at the high school, college, and postgraduate levels who cocktail waitress or bar tend their way through school. There are also a lot of adults who moonlight at these jobs. All of these people have other options in what they are able to do to make money, and can certainly stop bar tending or cocktail waitressing if they choose to do so, or if they don't enjoy being around cigarette smoke. The group of people I was talking about, however, consists of full-time service workers without very many other marketable skills, who realistically see this as their best opportunity to make a living wage, when tips are factored in. The state of California has decided it has a vested interest in protecting the health of these workers, who may because of economic necessity not be making good long-term health decisions for themselves because of immediate economic necessity when they say that the tips were better when people could smoke in bars, for example. I think it is only a matter of time until the rights of smokers in bars and restaurants is encroached upon in other states, as well.