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To: Father Terrence who wrote (22455)	5/29/1998 7:05:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Terrence, if foundries (and all the other industries which pollute), would have cleaned up their act, so so speak, without government regulation, can you tell me why they did not? Your argument lacks even a mere smidgen of reality or truth.

To: Father Terrence who wrote (22455)	5/30/1998 1:47:00 AM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

FT, I don't believe for a minute that the foundries would have cleaned up their pollution without the force of penalty. I will give you another example. In the 50's there was a huge expansion in the paper industry, mainly because of the influx of the baby boomers and the widespread use of disposable diapers and paper towels and cups, and our new use it once and throw it away mentality. Many of the paper mills were located in Wisconsin because of the availability of large amount of water and pulpwood. During this time, virtually all of the rivers that the paper mills were located on changed from clear and full of fish, to filthy and only able to support carp. Once again the government forced them to clean up their act. Am I supposed to believe once again that the management of any of those companies would have spent the money to clean up their operation when their competitors didn't? It was far cheaper to suck in fresh water, and dump the huge amount of untreated waste downstream. Just what was going to motivate these companies to change on their own? The natural inclination of humans is to leave things as they are when they are working for their own benefit, and to resist change. Del