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To: FJB who wrote (6389)5/29/1998 6:08:00 PM
From: Ali Chen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Robert, <what "manufacturing problem" Intel is having with
Merced?>
What kind of manufacturing "problem" could be
accounted if the chip is TWO YEARS before manufacturing?

Do you remember how long it took Intel to
finish their star project "iAPX432", just
to dump it into a trash?

I tend to believe that all these delays are
caused by insufficient background behind the
EPIC architecture itself. I suspect that
the massive simulations performed in
Intel-affiliated research universities
have revealed more than mediocre performance
advantages over regular RISC architectures.
My guess is that Intel is trying to patch
some holes in the architecture and went
again out the silicon area affordable at
0.18um technology.

Merced = R.I.P.



To: FJB who wrote (6389)5/30/1998 1:51:00 PM
From: Yousef  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6843
 
Bob,

Re: "Yousef, Can you find out what "manufacturing problem" Intel is having with Merced?"

Bob, this will be very difficult to get a "real" answer ... I don't buy
this "manufacturing problem" answer. I would be happy to give my "opinion"
on this ...

My information says that the Intel .18um process is still on schedule for a
fall '99 release ... in plenty of time for Merced. I believe that the
problem with Merced is in "chip design". Typically, a chip design schedule
can be traded-off with chip size. Thus a shorter schedule usually results
in a larger die. My "opinion" is that the Merced design is already very
large (~20mmX20mm) and Intel has serious concerns about manufacturing a
die of this size as well as Intel can't pull up the design schedule as Merced
could grow even larger . Thus, Intel is having to push out the release
date for Merced basically because the design is going slower than expected.
There could be other factors since this is a new architecture ... i.e. feedback
from simulation/emulation could be slow or more needed to optimize the
CPU design. Things like this would also slow down the design.

The Intel .18um process will be highly leveraged from their "excellent"
.25um process. The .18um process will be about ~30% faster on benchmark
circuits and with provide a ~70% linear shrink. I expect that this new process
will be on schedule and meeting release metrics. One way to check on this
is to watch the other chips to be released by Intel in this process (Fall '99 releases) ... If
these chips aren't "slipping", then it isn't a .18um process issue.

Hope this helps.

Make it So,
Yousef