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To: Street Walker who wrote (950)	6/1/1998 12:12:00 AM
From: Zeuspaul	Respond to of 14778

>> He's a 16 year old computer junkie. Any thoughts as to a reasonable price to pay him?<< It sounds like you will be giving up the warranty. Make sure you get a boxed Intel CPU vs the OEM CPU. The OEM has NO warranty from Intel. The boxed CPU has 3 yrs and only costs a little more. I do not know details of the IBM drives but in most cases you are probably better off with the retail version vs the OEM. If you opt for Totally Awesome then the warranty would be through them and OEM vs retail would not be an issue as far as warranty is concerned. I wouldn't do it to save money. If a friend of the family, and the kid knows what he is doing , go for it. JMO My guess, two days work at $10 per hour = $160. You handle buys and returns of defective parts. I would buy the mobo and RAM from the same retailer and have them test it before delivery ESC Technologies style. I do not use any crash guard software ( maybe that's my problem <g> ) NT is your crash guard, keep it clean and simple. Suggest Drive Image and two NT installations as we have been discussing to get you back in business if something happens. Virus stuff Generally I think the concerns are overblown. I have always been skeptical of Norton utilities and anti virus. It seems to be too good at getting into the workings of a computer IMO. I ran it for awhile because it came "free" with Netscape. I am going to try McCaffey sp? next time. Hopefully we will get some more input. It has not been discussed yet. Just some of my initial thoughts Zeuspaul

To: Street Walker who wrote (950)	6/1/1998 1:49:00 AM
From: LTBH	Respond to of 14778

Norton, Good or Bad Norton is great if it works on your system. However Norton also has a very long history of causing problems and conflicts. The last time I tried it (about 6 mos ago) it was still a 16 bit app. I've tried using Norton over the years and have always quickly deleted it for one reason or another, however many continue using this program. So its really a buy and try it deal. Check ZD for reviews of the more popular programs. I have finally settled for DL discretion as my protection. For those that can afford several systems, the best recommendation is to never DL or introduce non purchased SW to their work/trade system. This method ALWAYS protects!! Payment: Do you have any old HW/SW that might be bartered?? BTW, if you are using mainstream components that have been well reviewed and benchmarked, suggest you do it yourself. SW install is usually the biggest pain. Assembling a PC is NOT difficult. Networm

To: Street Walker who wrote (950)	6/1/1998 10:39:00 AM
From: Dave Hanson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

Quick review of Maxtor 11.5 Gig drive (Put this here in case you're interested, SW.) Got the drive Friday, for $337 shipped from TJT International (who gave me excellent service, the best price I could find, and a fed-ex tracking number.) A great, great drive. I ordered because storagereview.com and others posted remarkable performance, noticably better than even the deskstar 8, at a great price and huge capacity. Also, it was important to me that the drive run cool, so I didn't want one of the new Segate 7200 rpm drives, which have caused some problems. I like IBM's reputation and quietness, but they've been slow to market on their newest drives. With the added performance and capacity of the Maxtor over the deskstar 8 (the other leading choice for me,) I went with the Maxtor. Here's some other impressions: -It's noticably smaller, quieter, and cooler than my Quantum fireball ST 6.4 gig (circa July '97.) So much so, in fact, that it works happily in one of my removable IDE drive trays (ZP may wish to take note) without even getting hot to the touch, even with no extra cooler or fan. -It only has IDE jumper settings of Master/solo and slave, unlike some drives. This means that if you make it master, you can add or remove another slave drive on the same IDE channel without cracking the case. (In may case, I don't even need to change a bios setting--tho if I do, it will detect it quicker.) My only misgiving is that I'm having what looks to be either bios problems or possibly partition magic related problems with the drive being >8.4 gig. Had I to do it over again, I would have grabbed their 8 gig Diamond Mx 2880 for this reason. I'm using a new bios on a Supermicro P5mma98 main board, which I suspect is the culprit. Since several of you are using PowerQuest stuff now, I'll post more as soon as I've isolated the problem. If it is a bios problem, that will give me one more reason to try the FastTrak.