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To: Grainne who wrote (16864)6/2/1998 3:20:00 PM
From: mark silvers  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Christine

That was a very touching personal history. You appear to be a very gentle soul. Thanks for sharing.

Mark



To: Grainne who wrote (16864)6/2/1998 5:31:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Yes answered very well. I know a little of Bahai Abdullah but never could spell it.<VBG>

Grace, you are correct. There have been many enlightened Masters such as Jesus. You mentioned a few. The teaching of all was to benefit mankind. As we have witnessed with Jesus, Their truth is distorted and used in a negative way, nullifying the positive information they teach.

My inspiration troughout my life has come from a childs book my mother used to read for me. "The little engine that could." My other memories of early childhood were of fearing the action of the Devil. I was dreading being burned eternally. I dropped out of school in the third grade of high school. I was of the opinion money would prevent me going to heaven so had no desire to go to college. I was brainwashed at least 3 times weekly in church, and more during the tent meetings.
I had such a poor self image that it caused me all kind of difficulties. Is it any wonder I am angry about false teaching?
And really I was a pretty good kid.



To: Grainne who wrote (16864)6/2/1998 5:33:00 PM
From: Thomas Calvet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Hello Christine, it's been awhile since we've "talked". I was reading your history and came upon this:

"My problem with Christianity as it is practiced by fundamentalists has to do with their belief system hurting people like homosexuals, and dominating women, and trying to inflict their morality on everyone around them."

I suppose you would label me a "fundamentalist" because I believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God. I would have to respectfully disagree with your assessment that our "belief system" hurts homosexuals, and dominates women. Christine, I love all people, but I cannot blindly ignore the sin in peoples lives, especially my own.

Christine, may I ask a personal question? Who makes the final decision on important matters in your household? Your answer will prompt my reply to your "dominating women" contention by us fundies.

Christine, please do not judge God, Jesus, or Christianity by events in the past, nor by myself or any other professing Christian! You must ask God personally to reveal the truth to you. Of course I could recommend some areas of study, but then I would want you to search and see if the things I profess are true and are found in the Bible.

Respectfully yours,

Tom



To: Grainne who wrote (16864)6/2/1998 8:49:00 PM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 39621
 
Funeral gate-crashers from hell

The Arizona Republic
June 2, 1998

If the Rev. Fred Phelps is correct -- and by God he believes he is -- then former
Sen. Barry Goldwater is now a resident of hell. Along with Frank Sinatra, Sonny
Bono, Princess Diana and, possibly, Mother Teresa.

In order to reinforce this belief, Rev. Phelps is sending a squad of holy warriors to
picket Goldwater's funeral Wednesday. They plan to carry signs reading "Barry in
hell" and worse.

This is necessary, the reverend told me Monday, because Goldwater was "a
supporter of Sodomites."

He explained, "When you want to say it's OK to be gay, then you're saying God is
a liar and the Bible is not a reliable guide. You're saying it's OK to sin, because if
the Bible is wrong on that weighty matter, then it's not reliable on any matter."

Rev. Phelps is reliable, however.

You can rely on him and his parading zealots from Westboro Baptist Church in
Topeka, Kan., to have something to say, to stage some protest, to try to get on
TV, after the death of any person with a big name.

'Too late for everyone'

"I've been preaching the gospel for 50 years," Rev. Phelps said. "I'm telling you,
looking at the Bible, I have a profound feeling of distress that it's too late for
everyone in this country."

And he's correct.

At least, it's too late for us to ignore Rev. Phelps.

He's already been featured on local talk radio. Already been in the local papers.
Soon, his sign-carrying zombies will turn up on local TV.

We live in the land of fruits and nuts.

Show the media a fruit, and we go nuts.

Pastor Phelps is a Carmen Miranda, with a Bible.

After Sinatra died, the reverend sent out a press release that read in part, "This
whoremongering son of an abortionist became Chairman of the Board of the
entertainment industry for half a century. He must now atone for his sins."

Sonny Bono is in hell, Phelps says, for not condemning his gay daughter, Chastity.

After the death of Princess Diana, Westboro Baptist Church issued a statement
reading, "God Almighty has again manifested His hot displeasure against the
prevailing depravity of these last days by dramatically snuffing out the hedonistic
life of a leading international symbol of immoral, god-defying decadence."

I asked the reverend, "Is there any prominent person in the United States who
isn't going to hell?"

"No," he said. "I tell you, I get very lonely."

Phelps is very fond of Zimbabwe, though, and its President Robert Mugabe.

"God bless Mugabe," he says. "Of all the leaders of the modern states, he is the
only one taking the proper position on the homosexual menace."

Because of this, the Westboro Baptist Church flies the flag of Zimbabwe above the
flag of the United States. The American flag is flown upside down.

Memorial Day sentiment
For Memorial Day, the church issued a statement titled, "They all died in vain for
a filthy Sodomite nation led by perverts and whores."

In Kansas, Phelps' parishioners are known to picket the funerals of AIDS victims.

The reason they'll travel to Goldwater's service, he said, "is because this nation
needs to be preached to.

"Its leaders need to be preached to. And the best place to preach to them is at
their miserable funerals where they're gathered around lying about each other."

You can read all about Phelps' church on his Web site (I swear I'm not making this
up): godhatesfags.com.

Among the many offerings available is a transcript of a pamphlet titled (Really,
I'm not kidding) "Mother Teresa in hell."

If Phelps is right, if hell -- the ultimate hot spot -- is filling up with the unholy likes
of Goldwater and Sinatra and Princess Di and Mother Teresa, there's only one
thing left I'd like to know.

Do they take reservations?

azcentral.com