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Biotech / Medical : PFE (Pfizer) How high will it go? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John R. Sashko who wrote (3163)	6/4/1998 1:28:00 AM
From: Anthony Wong	Respond to of 9523

John and thread, some good news from a report on the AUA conference:: The tiny European countries of San Moreno and Andorra are the only other places where it has been legally available. That will soon change. Pfizer representatives said they received approval three days ago to sell the drug in Morocco and Brazil, and anticipate approval to begin sales in Mexico and Colombia in the next few weeks, and throughout Europe by September. I've posted the article at the Pharma News thread: Message 4715472

To: John R. Sashko who wrote (3163)	6/4/1998 3:53:00 AM
From: Tunica Albuginea	Respond to of 9523

GOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM !!!!!!This is Willemetta Robin, with FIELD report #1from our reporter TUNA: The story, " too much sex causes blindness " does appear to have a kernel of truth in it after all, ( although some folks like to call this all hype, gg ): Here is the famous Dr.Marmor in his own words followed by commentary from our own TUNA : Message 4327441 Eye Doctors Caution Viagra Users: Newly-approved Drug May Cause Visual Side Effects SAN FRANCISCO, May 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, doctors at the American Academy of Ophthalmology, the world's largest organization of eye physicians and surgeons, warned users of the newly-approved anti-impotence drug, Viagra, about the potential side effects that may affect vision. Michael F. Marmor, MD, Professor of Ophthalmology at Stanford University and spokesperson for the Academy, said that a moderate percentage of people taking Viagra have experienced problems with their vision. "FDA clinical trials show that taking the medication, especially at higher doses, can cause some retinal dysfunction and affect the way we see for a number of hours." Patients reported visual disturbances described as bluish color tinge and light sensitivity. Dr. Marmor said a clinical study showed that electrical measures of retinal function dropped by 30 to 50 percent and lasted for at least five hours after taking a high dose of Viagra. "On the surface, seeing the world with a bluish tinge may just be annoying," Dr. Marmor said. It is not known, however, whether or not the drug causes any permanent changes in vision. "We need to do some studies about the long-term effects of taking Viagra." In the meantime, Dr. Marmor urged those with retinal eye conditions such as macular degeneration or retinitis pigmentosa to use the drug with caution. "Stay at the lowest dose level possible," he said. According to the FDA, the recommended dose level for most patients is 50 mg. The American Academy of Ophthalmology is the world's largest organization of eye physicians and surgeons (Eye M.D.s), with more than 23,000 members. The mission of the Academy is to achieve accessible, appropriate and affordable eye care for the public by serving the educational and professional needs of ophthalmologists. Visit the Academy's website at www.eyenet.org. SOURCE American Academy of Ophthalmology CO: American Academy of Ophthalmology ST: California My comment: The above info NEEDS to be READ VERY CAREFULLY: a) the person commenting ,DrMarmor, is at the highest level of credibility, because he is the president of the American Academy of Ophthalmologicy the highest Eye organization in the US. b) Dr Marmor is a Prof at Stanford, a top Medical School. c) The retina studies were done independently of Pfizer funding and thus are more credible. d) The retina studies were sophisticated retinal electrical studies that had not been previously done ( at least from what is available in the literature ). e) The studies show a SIGNIFICANT retinal loss of function: 30 - 50% !!!! Again, repeat after me 30 - 50 % LOSS lasting F I V E H O U R S !!!!!! Now it may come as a surprise to many that certain diseases, broadly called DEGENERATIVE diseases DON"T happen OVERNIGHT. Degenerative arthritis is one of them;it take years to develop, as a result of continued micro- injuries. Smoking and Emphysema is another example. So what DrMarmor is essentially saying is that Viagra seems to cause a significant loss of retinal injury, sort of like a stunned retina: It is of such multiple continues micro injuries the retinal degeneration and blindness occurs. f) to compound this, my early reports show that more and more people are going back to their Docs to pick up the 100 mg dose of Viagra: that is the dose were the side effects that DrMarmor is talkng about occur; the 50 mg does not work. Which is also why a) Viagra new scrips are down, and b) Alan Abelson quotes a price for Pfizer of $90 in the next few months. g) none of the Viagra studies to my knowledge examined the retina through electrical studies. All this is just beginning.This folks over the next year or two will be visiting their retinal specialist, gg, not their ophthalmologist; there is a difference. It is the retinal specialist that will pick up all these problems.Nobody else can. My question to all VIAGRA users is: have you visited your Retina Specialist recently? If not, do you think you should? This is TUNA VRobin, over and out. Thank you TUNA for another informative moment. And weeeeel be back!!! folks. Stay tunaed Your own Willemetta Robin

To: John R. Sashko who wrote (3163)	6/5/1998 12:52:00 AM
From: Solid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9523

John- Thanks for sharing the professional experience. Medicine is in your face real world- every day. Media hype is just that. When well researched and substanciated I listen and pay attention and am grateful for eyes and ears where mine have not yet been. When fear mongering I resent the short sighted self serving nature of it as it just feeds into negativity which alienates folks more and more from trust and one another. Clear skies to you! Solid