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To: epicure who wrote (22736)6/4/1998 9:53:00 AM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
X:

A so-called "free thinker" is not necessarily a creator -- or a producer. The motive power of the world are not "free" thinkers, but creators.

And what is the opposite of a free thinker? A strait-jacketed thinker?

FT



To: epicure who wrote (22736)6/5/1998 1:32:00 AM
From: Krowbar  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
X, I have had the same feeling about being different than the believers in religion. Why are there so few non-believers? I guess it is that promise of eternal life after death, a promise that doesn't have to be kept, that is so overwhelmingly attractive. I can remember in the third grade wondering why the adults were believing in something that was clearly, to me, made up. I am still wondering.

Del



To: epicure who wrote (22736)6/8/1998 2:30:00 AM
From: Grainne  Respond to of 108807
 
X, the other day I heard just a snippet of a radio or television show in which someone was saying that we as humans are pattern seekers. Sorry I didn't hear more; it probably would have been illuminating. But what occurred to me is that maybe the people who do not believe in mystical religions and immortality are among the minority who are NOT pattern seekers. Most men need to make order out of chaos, make some complete story out of life, find meaning where perhaps there is none.

Since free thinkers do not mind chaos in the sense of intellectual chaos (I know you keep a very tidy kitchen), and yet are among our most intelligent beings, I am wondering if pattern seeking is less compulsive or common in the intelligentsia. It would be fun to survey a MENSA chapter or something to see.

I also wonder if parents deliberately teach their children to be free thinkers, for the most part. I know that my mother did this with me, and I have done it with my daughter, always asking her offbeat questions about what ELSE something could mean, what ANOTHER point of view might be, etc., in age appropriate ways. You said your mother encouraged you intellectually. Were ways of reasoning emphasized? This makes me wonder if attorneys are any less religious than the population as a whole, since they are taught to poke holes in stories.