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To: John S. Baker who wrote (2975)6/4/1998 8:45:00 AM
From: TERRA33  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4783
 
MM enter into short positions all the time. They will settle a trade for your broker, and later acquire the shares from another MM. This happens all the time, in this case the floorless debentures have made the problem even larger. NO one is holding "illegal" shares, and no one's broker will be calling and saying "oops we sold you shares that did not exist". Most transactions are done bookentry, the certs are never reissued in your name/your broker's name. That is why if you call for your certs it takes time.

How will they cover? They will be forced to run the price up until people start to sell, the longer we hold the higher the price must go to entice us to sell. The MM's are going to have to scramble to get hold of share. It is supply and demand.



To: John S. Baker who wrote (2975)6/4/1998 10:19:00 AM
From: PHILL  Respond to of 4783
 
Exactly, thats why the shorters have to cover by buying back all the bogus shares. They will have to keep raising the price until they get enough shares back to cover. Thats the part I like the most. (he he he). They make a ton of money illegally shorting stocks they just hope they don't get caught, when they do they have to run the price up high enough so you will sell back to them. Great explaination TG. Good luck to all

PHILL