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To: Gerd Schwarz who wrote (10)	6/12/1998 12:36:00 AM
From: Phil(bullrider)	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 638

Gerd, Why is it that every time I mention God and politics in the same sentence, there is someone that wants to take my comments out of context and debate them? There sure seem to be a lot of insecure people out there. It's almost like a lot of the penny stock threads when a short seller or a negative poster shows up. >>>> To: +Jane Hafker (6 ) From: +bullrider Tuesday, Jun 9 1998 6:39PM ET Reply # of 17 Jane, Although I feel discussing God is almost the same as discussing politics, ( there are no winners or losers ), I feel compelled to discuss your comment on lead in potatoes. >>>>>>> To: +bullrider (9 ) From: +Gerd Schwarz Wednesday, Jun 10 1998 11:01PM ET Reply # of 17 For me God and politics are not the 'same'. For a relationship to God the Father is very personal. Politics could be anything, even Religion. >>>>>>>> Check these posts out. If you are interested enough, which I doubt you are, you can visit the thread and see that Georgia never responded to my last post. exchange2000.com exchange2000.com exchange2000.com >>>>>>>>> I feel that if someone replies to a post I have made, I want them to reply to what I have said, not what they thought I have said, nor what they wished I had said, nor what they dreamed I had said. I did not say that God and politics were the "same", I said "discussing God is almost the same as discussing politics, (there are no winners or losers). In other words, you have your opinions, and I have mine. You will not convince me that you're opinions are right, and I probably won't convince you that mine are right, whether in politics or religion. If this explanation is more than you can understand, please print it and study it, but please do not take any more of my statements out of context and put your own meanings to them. Phil

To: Gerd Schwarz who wrote (10)	6/14/1998 3:37:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 638

Gerd, I will tell you something, and truly, with all my heart I hope you will hear it, think about it, and do it. When you pray for God to give you answers to anything, let HIM tell you where to go to get them. I will not belittle myself by responding to the websites on the Poor Knights of the Temple of Jerusalem, but I will tell you in all truth that I do not displease the Heavely Hosts by looking beyond the incredible evil done to them--1300 years later STILL labelled as the Crime of the Millenium (their imprisonment, horrific 8 years of torture and/or being burned alive, and final dissolution at the hands of a monstrous political machine). You can freely post your comments on those websites. But unless you have read a long list of books personally, and also personally researched this matter from many interlibraray loan sources, I would ask that you not pounce on me as an infidel. And I will not pounce on you as a fool who gets his information from a man-made, newly created URLs on the web. Is that fair. I will accept your insult and only say that in this matter you are incorrect. On all points. I would suggest that if you want only holy discussions, there are two threads set up for just that, and you will find the subject matter purely scriptural, and I am the greatest backer of purely holy threads in the world. This place was not designed to be Holy Conversations of Scripture only. There is a need for just plain happy or serious thought exchange between those who love God. Seriously hope you will seek out the Rock of Savation or Signs of the Times or other threads where the conversation is strictly about scripture. Perhaps that will be more pleasing to you. I have read more of the ca-ca about the Temple Knights that you refer me to on the URLs than you have. I would say 1000 % more. But thanks for the instruction, and perhaps more than ever I see that the subject will remain the Crime of the Millenium until the Lord comes back and sheds further light on it. And certainly I would have believed them if I had not exhausted the current older library lists of the actual history of the knights, and especially Palmers, I believe, historical documentation of the trials themselves, as well as the writing we have available from the Mike Douglas's and Geraldo Riveras of that day. Usually they were just knights who wrote what they say. So, I am quite content in what God Himself has instructed me to seek out in this matter, and reject your accusations that I am stupid and uninformed in this particular matter. I would say I might be stupid and uninformed in many, many areas. But of what you accuse me--you are quite wrong, sorry.